Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,21:31)Are they particularly convinced by his loving smiting of innocent people?Can a good person prune a tree or a vineyard?Human genealogy is a type of tree that God has pruned from time to time, in order to get rid of the branches that don't produce fruit.A God who didn't love people would just forget about it and let…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,21:31)All men have no excuse for what?No excuse to deny God. The universe declares his glory.You see a house and you know that it has a builder. God is the builder of all.Of course to deny this is folly.

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,21:31)You want it both ways though. In your arguments god is both ubiquitous and inscrutable. If the universe is the work of a god, it is not the god and works described in the Judeo-christian mythology.Not sure what you are getting at, but suffice to say that just because you cannot see something directly doesn't mean…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 04 2008,17:49)Hi LU,So the son of God is not really a son.More of a clone?Nick, I couldn't see in LU's post where that is mentioned. What sentence or text of LU's are you referring to.Thanks.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 04 2008,14:01) Make it 3 and turn it into a trinity.     The tongue trinity.

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 03 2008,22:07)Is the sin of not knowing Jesus as your saviour overlooked if a person has no knowledge of Him?Is ignorance of the law, or ignorance of His existence an excuse?TimTo some degree I think it is a legitimate excuse.But all men have the knowledge of God's law, it is called conscience. So I think that all men can…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2008,13:42)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 04 2008,12:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 03 2008,02:44)Malcolm,Thank you so much for your input so far.  I'm following your reasoning and agree,yeah!  What is your response to the fact that the LORD claims that He alone stretched out the heavens and spread out the earth by H…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2008,13:39)This would be true if the scriptures say Yahshua is “an” image of the invisible God.Still true if he is the image of the invisible God.Is the Father the image of the invisible God?No, Yeshua is.The Father is the one true God and Jesus Christ is who God sent.For 'us', there is one God the Father. For you…[Read more]

Quote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 04 2008,13:20)Quote It's difficult to reconcile this verse with others like John 1:3, Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, Heb 1:3 and Heb 1:10 while still holding that Yeshua….1. Didn't pre-exist His incarnation2. Isn't the Lord God AlmightyThese verses are most assuredly not compatible with unitarianism, or henotheism. On the face…[Read more]

Quote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 02 2008,08:40)Quote Do you think he was the first work of the Father?as Tiffany said Col 1:15-17 is a good place to start.one thing I don't believe that there are 2 Gods or that a son can be eternal (i.e. in the sense that he has no beginning or end – he can have eternal life in him)I agree.

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,07:36)Single-cell animals have neither eyes nor brains for processing sensory information of any kind. They 'know' of the elephant because it will be keeping them warm, which changes the rate of their biochemical reactions.Exactly the point. Just because they cannot see or comprehend, doesn't mean that what they can't…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,07:36)OK. So there is no piece of evidence that should give me any reason at all to doubt my scientific conclusion that there is no god. I appreciate you acknowledging that. Of course it blows your design argument out of the water but that was dead long ago anyway.Correct. You can't put God under a microscope or see…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,07:39)Quote You and I are just as filthy as Lot and anyone else. Speak for yourself t8!StuartGod is holy and we all fall short of his glory. This is what sin is, and we are all in the same boat.But not all take the lifeboat on offer.

He believes more that something can come from nothing than something from someone.His bias prefers nothing to someone as the cause.But he admits that he knows nothing on the subject, even though he proudly proclaims there is no God.

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 30 2008,23:32)Hi theodorejYou might be thinking of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle that basically says you can either know where a particle is or know its speed but the more accurately you know one the less accurately you can know the other.  This inherently arises with very small particles because you will naturally change…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 03 2008,01:00)Sift through all the evidence, all the accumulated knowledge that makes testable predictions, and is there even one single solitary little fact that unquestionably points to the existence of the Judeo-christian god?  A single piece of concrete evidence for Jehovah / Yahweh / Whatever that it would be perverse to…[Read more]

Hey Stu.God judges each of us on our lives.The scenario now is that God has given us all some license to do what we want to a degree. If we choose God, then we have truly chosen him. If we choose him not, then that is what we want.If God zapped us all up into the highest realm of his Heaven, I am sure that most would want to serve him if they saw…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 03 2008,19:33)Why don't all of you reinvent natural science and human psychology while you are at it?  I was waiting to see how long it would take someone to point out that:“It should also be remembered that Lot’s daughters had resided among the morally debased inhabitants of Sodom. In view of these factors, it would not have be…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 03 2008,04:23)It is true that a lot of what your saying sounds like justification to me but it also could be a lot more complicated than I realize and maybe we don't have all the information?Only faith is not of sin. You and I are just as filthy as Lot and anyone else. Only by faith are you not sinning and that is why we all…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 03 2008,04:23)But my point was that Lot was supposed to be righteous.  He was also aware of the unwritten and written “laws' of God.  Incest is clearly written.  Yet he was not destroyed but the town that he came from was!!  Could it have been that he asked for forgiveness and the other's did not?  Perhaps….Did Lot have…[Read more]