Quote (martian @ Jan. 27 2009,07:14)You are comparing apples and oranges.Exactly.If he existed in the form of theos and came in the flesh/walked as a man, humbled himself, then we can be like him. Not so much because he came in the flesh because that doesn't affect us in the slightest. It is what he did while in the flesh, and in the power of God,…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Jan. 25 2009,05:17)Tell me this, How does that make Christ a more viable example for me? and How does that help to fulfill God's plan for my life?I think this is a non-question.How does Jesus begin a Jew help me a Gentile be more like him? That too is a non-irrelevant question. The premise or foundation of your thinking shouldn't…[Read more]

Hi Kejonn.I think you missed my point.If you agree that pursuing something that is not true such as preaching that the earth is a triangle is a waste of time, then all I am saying is that you consider your life and works as a believer was a waste of time in the same way because you were pursuing something that you now consider false.So either you…[Read more]

Q: Favorable in what way? A: Well it is not favorable to be deceived or dedicate one's life to something that is not true as that equates to wasting your time which is a finite resource. Think of it as working for nothing.Either way, you have, or you are dedicating part of your life to something that isn't true. Would you for example work for the…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Jan. 25 2009,02:36)t8, you must be bored with all the other topics. I am, that's why I'm here.GeorgI have seasons of discussion and do not prefer to engage in them all the time as they do require a lot of time and energy. I find that it is easy to take on a not so good attitude with anything when it out balances other things in life…[Read more]

Hey kejonn.You must feel silly.You beleived in God and his son. Now you debunk this as a myth.Conclusion: You were once in the cartoon above, or you have fallen away from the truth.Either one isn't really favorable to you, is it?

The title is not a reflection on the fact that he has repented and has been courageous in admitting his deception, rather, it is about the fact that he was a believer and he deceived all those people and even his own family. It just goes to show you that this stuff can happen and all those people that were worshiping with him, didn't realize or…[Read more]

A bit like saying there is “The Theos” as opposed to “theos”.

Quote (david @ Jan. 24 2009,15:13)Quote Does it appear that “antichrist” is an attitude about Christ that when held by anyone confers on them the label, antichrist?Yes, it does.  The Bible said there WERE “many antichrists” already in the first century.  Movies and stories like to portray the idea of one really bad guy, “the antichrist.”But, a…[Read more]

To kerwin.This word is used quite a lot in scripture.http://www.biblegateway.com/quickse….sion=31'Through' seems like a fair understanding of that word from those verses.Also think of Eve. Did God create Eve?Yet he did so through Adam or by Adam.My point being that if God created all things alone, then that would have to also include Eve , and…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 23 2009,04:50)T8……..my point was the the word Through can be equally exchanged for by or for as the GREEK Shows, So why would you say through , when others scriptures show plainly GOD said He created everything (ALONE and BY HIMSELF),Actually the words are very similar. If I need to get from New Zealand to Canada, I…[Read more]

First contribution.

This happened about 2000 years ago.Matthew 27:51-54 51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. 52 The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy…[Read more]

Good one Mr Weinland. More reason to be an atheist.

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 22 2009,20:29)This god strikes me as more evil than any other mythological being.Acknowledging evil leads to understanding that good exists also, for one is the lack of the other. This leads onto the question, where does good and evil come from.Everything has an origin Stu.If you thought through your own thought processes without…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 21 2009,12:34)Indeed, and men wrote the bible. So its the blind leading the blind.And you wrote this post.

No problem at all.

Quote (david @ Jan. 22 2009,18:27)Is it just me, or is this idea that God will save all completely ludicris and against scripture?Not just you david.It is a repeated teaching in scripture that the wicked will perish and be destroyed. I think this is God's mercy to the wicked because God is merciful. I think to live as a wicked person cut off from…[Read more]

There are pre-existence discussions going on in more appropriate threads. Any chance of moving this there?People will locate what you are saying more easily if it is in a discussion with a title that resembles what you are saying.Thanks.

Scripture is clear.It says that God created the universe 'for' and 'through' Christ/son. John 1:10He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.1 Corinthians 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,…[Read more]