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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 8 months ago

    Jesus body didn't have blood as that was poured out for the sins of men.

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    Quote (martian @ Feb. 20 2009,08:18)So what exactly happened to those experiances and memories from Jesus' pre-existence? Did He retain them into His birth on the Earth?Don't know the answer except to say that it is written that he emptied himself and took on human flesh.So the answer maybe in the emptying himself.”Empty” (kenoo) – “…1. to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cindy @ Feb. 15 2009,01:57)To allThe Jews did not believe Jesus was the son of God, and so do many people today, they could be labeled as antichrist. Any one who teaches a different gospel than Christ did, is an antichrist. Any one who does not believe he was sent in the flesh, is an antichrist. Of these Antichrist's we have many; but there…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Feb. 01 2009,08:15)Quote I dont think the Anti-Christ is a person.—pheonix.Nor do I think it is “a” person, as if it were one person who fulfills this role.Anti-Christ means “against” Christ.  The Bible says there were “many” antichrist's, even in the apostles days.Yes that is right, there are many antichrists.The below verse…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 19 2009,18:38)Do you believe the scriptures? It seems to me you make Jesus out to being some kind of an empty shell that had no part in the creation, like a puppet on a string.No, my stance is more like this:John 5:19Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only…[Read more]

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    Hi Marty.Jesus said “Before Abraham, I am”. He was saying that he existed before Abraham. I am means to exist. He is the root and offspring of David. Colossians 1:17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.Jude 1:25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cindy @ Feb. 16 2009,20:11)t8 Your last sentence is that you are not sure to what capacity God created through Him and for Him, it says. If He says through Him it was a 100% through Him. Case closed. If He says for Him it was 100% for Him. All things…….not half………….all. That boggles my mind.Peace and Love IreneAgreed.

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 18 2009,16:18)But wasn’t it cool to see t8 mention NAZIs so quickly?  He didn’t even go via Stalin or Pol Pot.StuartThanks, not sure if it is cool, but if you think so, then I don't mind being accused of that.

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    Quote (charity @ Feb. 17 2009,11:43)okay so if you finally arrive at my/our understanding then  you have come from out from the pigsty?how the hang is that fair and just .. we have unorganized adolescent reading  mans ego trips an hogwash….can you know the path if you haven't walked it yet, not even Jesus did?Let me see you can't understand, s…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 17 2009,18:14)Quote (david @ April 13 2006,11:06)Quote I am only asking you to team up with others in New Zealand with like faith just to put out Jesus name. In September 1939, World War II began, and in October 1940, the New Zealand government banned the activity of Jehovah’s Witnesses–for putting “out Jesus name,” and the n…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Feb. 17 2009,17:46)My only reference point to New Zealand people is Bret and Jermaine from “Flight of the Conchords.”In my mind, I tend to assume T8 is like Bret and Nick is like Jermaine.  Have either of you ever seen that show?Seriously, I saw the guy with black hair and glasses across the road from where I work not to long ago.…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Feb. 17 2009,17:46)My only reference point to New Zealand people is Bret and Jermaine from “Flight of the Conchords.”In my mind, I tend to assume T8 is like Bret and Nick is like Jermaine.  Have either of you ever seen that show?I am the good looking one which ever that one is.

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    david are you there?Will you answer these questions?

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2009,20:42)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2009,16:55)All of us have spent time in the pigsty before we started walking and He came to meet us  I didn't realise all christians had to walk in a pigsty.  I assume that is not a Jewish tradition.StuartOften a person does not know he is in one until he sees something better. Perhaps y…[Read more]

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    If an angel stood in or near a bush, his glory might appear as a fire. Jesus himself is said to have eyes like a blazing fire and his feet like glowing bronze.God himself is spirit and no man can see him or has ever seen him.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 14 2009,11:19)Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2009,09:38)The word “through” means a channel. Like a camel going 'through' the eye of a needle which is the same word.Channel? You mean like a “funnel” or a “puppet” or an “empty vessel”? ???So in other words Jesus had no “active” role in the creation but like Adam was just the…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Feb. 14 2009,12:04)Hi t8 and LU:I have read what you have to say regarding this, and I appreciate all your comments, but I want to back away a little while to see if I can hear from God.  He may have already spoken to me through you, but I just want to make sure that we are teaching His Word in truth.Love in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Karen @ Feb. 15 2009,16:04)Also, first husband who is still alive had numerous affairs, did not support his family as a man should.It is written that marital unfaithfulness is grounds for divorce. Matthew 5:32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone…[Read more]

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    Quote (martian @ Feb. 14 2009,06:51)I do not expect to change anyone's mind on here and so far I have not been offered anyhitng honest enough to change mine.If I believed not as you and you showed me scriptures to the contrary, I would change my mind. Why wouldn't I? It would be an act of lunacy to not align oneself with the truth.

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    942767Ask yourself this, who created Eve?Was it God?YesWas it Eve?NoBut Eve was made through Adam, yet Eve was created by God alone.So if God can create through Adam, then how much more can he create through the beginning of the creation of God, while still holding to the belief that God creating everything alone?Can you see that? To be a vessel…[Read more]

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