Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 07 2009,04:13)t8,Who said that God is one “being”? I haven't said this nor has God said this. This “one being” idea is non-trinitarian.If you believe that the Most High God is 3 beings, then you believe in 3 Gods.Deuteronomy 64 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Mark 12:29“The most important one,” answered…[Read more]

Quote Quote It is written that he emptied himself and became as one of us.That is written. It is up to us to understand what that means.Hi t8,The Philippians passage you're referring to has always been a point of keen interest to me.I notice that Paul gives us a lot of credit, saying, “Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:”.…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 06 2009,20:42)The United States is ONE nation. But it is made up of MANY states. A husband and wife are ONE flesh.  But they are made up of TWO persons. In Ephesians 2 Paul said that in Christ Jew and Gentile are ONE new man. Yet the new man is TWO in one. Paul said also that we are ONE body in Christ but MANY.But a…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 06 2009,20:59)Kerwin,I believe I gave you a clear answer to your question. I said that Mary's conception was miraculous. Mary conceived by the “power of the most high God.” Yet you say that WJ infers that if Christ is God then sexual relations with Mary had to occur. I brought up invitro fertilization only as an example…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2009,03:06)Hi all,Since this is the trinity thread I will post here some of my concerns of the trinity doctrine. I am not trying to pick on the trinitarians here, many of my friends and family are trinitarians.We all know that the word “trinity” is not in the scriptures but there are MANY words in the doctrine that make…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2009,19:01)Hi kerwinWhat is wrong with my statement? Was Adam created or born?I know exactly what I am saying.WJWe may know what we are saying, but do we know what god is saying? Do we know the difference between our own understanding and that which is revealed by God by scripture/revelation?Just a general…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 05 2009,09:43)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 04 2009,15:49)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 01 2009,09:35)So God's form is a “E Pluribus Unum”.thinkerHey thinker.Think about this.If God is Plural, then why not address God as “THEM”.After all, when we address a human we are not talking to their body or flesh, but to the real person/identity.…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 05 2009,07:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 05 2009,03:45)Hi guys,Thanks for thinking this through with me.I believe that something that is created is going to have a different nature than its creator.  Something that is born on the other hand is going to have the same nature of the one he came from.That's the difference.  The S…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2009,03:33)Hi allHere is where the confusion is.Everything that exist is created, including that which is born.An example of this is we are born again by the Spirit. John 3:3Yet we read…And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is “created” in righteousness and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2009,05:45)Hi KathiRespectfully I disagree with you because I do not believe there is any umambiguous scriptures that shows the prexisting God that was with God had a begining. IMO part of the nature of what makes God God is he is infinite and eternal. Therefore for Jesus do be all that the Father is in nature…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 01 2009,09:35)So God's form is a “E Pluribus Unum”.thinkerHey thinker.Think about this.If God is Plural, then why not address God as “THEM”.After all, when we address a human we are not talking to their body or flesh, but to the real person/identity. e.g., would you address conjoined twins as “HIM/HER”?If you believe that…[Read more]

Stu.You cannot hear God and you lack insight into his existence, so is it any wonder you don't believe? It is a no-brainer as to why you are an athiest.What else is there to say?

Quote (david @ Feb. 24 2009,14:44)I find his comments very interesting as it helps to understand why the hate campaign against JW’s is so great.david, I don't think there are many people who hate JWs. I think you will find that many of these people hate the deception they weave. Although I do admit that many of these people offer a solution that i…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 27 2009,13:31)The truth is Nick, the earliest disciples became a “theatrical spectacle to the world.”  What they were doing was quite noticeable, and different.Do you think Jesus' followers would stand out as different?  (I'll take your future silence to this question in the affirmative.)davidThe earliest disciples were not J…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 27 2009,18:12)I do see that some of their beliefs infringe on what I would consider “freedom” in Christ.  It's a personal interpretation thing.  Otherwise though, they seem pretty in-line with scripture.  Their body seems to do a lot of good in the community.  And their meetings go a long way in promoting God and his Chr…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 26 2009,10:35)Two thoughts–1. Why would anyone in any religion belong to that religion if they didn't feel it was the correct religion?2. The earliest Christians believed exactly that.There are plenty of religions one can join and thus a man can choose the one that fits best.God has sent his son into the world to destroy the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 27 2009,20:50)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2009,20:40)Hi TT, Yes he is special.He is the prophet spoken of by Moses and quoted in Acts. He is given all authority by his God and our God.He is more than special. The apostle John said that Jesus claimed equality with God (John 5:18). After John said that Christ claimed…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Feb. 28 2009,06:05)Nick-odemusI did not say he was “there”, I said he has returned, and I gave you scriptures to show you why I believe that. You have yet to prove me wrong.GeorgLuke 17:22-2522 Then he said to his disciples, “The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it. 23…[Read more]

Mandy, I am going to create a discussion about pride, if it doesn't already exist. We can then leave this one for debate on the Trinity doctrine.

Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 24 2009,12:05)Quote (Cindy @ Feb. 24 2009,10:43)Mandy I have a question for you or several questions. We are to worship in Spirit and in Truth. So we search for the truth. Line upon line , precept upon precept. Can I prove that there is a trinity? It is not to be found in the Bible. Can I however prove that it is wrong?…[Read more]