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    Stu, if I have a debit of $5 and then pay back $5 making zero balance, then that leaves a zero balance at that point. But if I turn around and say that the money system was always there or that it too came from nothing, then I am handing my mind over to fantasies.I do not accept magic, i.e., the money/financial system (that allowed the eventual…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic The ways of God in the forum Faith 17 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ April 08 2009,04:31)To blame disease on the religious concept of sin, no matter whose, is what you might call evil, and I would call grossly injust.That is like blaming a computer virus on the operating system. The OS allows hooks and API's for programs to work. Evil takes advantage of this good feature and allows malicious programs…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 17 2009,05:02)Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2009,04:54)My theory:One GODOne God (God from GOD by birth as a literal Son, first to receive life apart from the always existent life source)many gods (gods from GOD through God by creation and appointment)LUHi KathiOne God yet many Gods\gods?Makes no sense to me.Blessings…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 18 2009,07:44)The Son is the radiance of God's glory and “the exact representation of his being”, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. Heb 1:3And…”Who, being in very nature God”, did not consider equality w…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 19 2009,17:30)Quote (t8 @ April 19 2009,15:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 17 2009,05:02)Hi KathiOne God yet many Gods\gods?Makes no sense to me.Blessings WJHi WJ.One God made up of multiple person doesn't make sense either. The only true God sent his son, that makes sense.Hi t8To me it makes perfect sense, and…[Read more]

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    Quote (epistemaniac @ Sep. 01 2008,03:23)The title of this section of the Forum is a bit misleading and violates this informal rule in logic, it is not necessarily the case that Tradition is specifically contrary to Scripture. Of course tradition CAN be contrary to Scripture…. BUT…. it does not NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE…… and that's what the…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ April 18 2009,19:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2008,10:00)Hi E, You say as if such a choice is invalid”1. Either you're for me or against me.”But Jesus says”He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.” He made the choice of him and his teachings to be necessarily exclusive of…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 17 2009,05:02)Hi KathiOne God yet many Gods\gods?Makes no sense to me.Blessings WJHi WJ.One God made up of multiple person doesn't make sense either. The only true God sent his son, that makes sense.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic The ways of God in the forum Faith 17 years, 6 months ago

    God gave man free will. The ability to choose God means that you have the ability to choose NOT God, which is sin. Free will means that we are not a race of robots, and that true love can exist rather than a programed response. But free will also comes with risk. The risk is that you can decide to reject God. Even though man and some angels have…[Read more]

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    It is written that angels are spirits. So they could be angels.

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    Hey KJ.My faith is not based on my upbringing or culture. It is something that I have personally experienced and because of that, I can't be talked out of it. I have tasted of the Kingdom.I was brought up an atheist in a country with many atheists.I even fought the atheist fight not knowing any better.I also find denominations boring. I did when I…[Read more]

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    Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 04 2009,03:44)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 02 2009,00:17)I can vouch for what I believe in and the associated fruit and evidence I have received as a result.Is this supposed to mean something? It is empty as far as getting to the bottom of the word “truth”.Yes it means something to me because it is my experience.If you have no experience,…[Read more]

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    Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 04 2009,00:20)What if I call out in prayer and another god answers? What if it is the Norse god, Odin? What if it is one of the many Celtic gods? Or a Native American god? How will I know with clarity which god is answering my call?I called out and YHWH answered me. I seriously gave the opportunity for God to talk to me and he…[Read more]

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    I forgot about this discussion.

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    Stu, you believe that more information is increasing. In other words things are becoming more complex through processes that have no designer. A big stretch of the imagination that is getting bigger by the day because the information is getting bigger, is what I am saying.Since when does information increase without intelligence or at least…[Read more]

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    Hi VestnikRA.Thanks for your reply.Do you know the difference between the Church and a denomination?

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    Stu lets not beat around the bush.What is the fourth option?I will list the first 3 again but this time without using the word “cause” so you have nothing to hide behind.Where did everything originate:a) Godb) Nothingc) Something (dead)In this context, please add the fourth option.We all wait with bated breath…..

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 18 2009,06:19)The simple confounds the wise.Stu says that it is foolish to believe that Jesus rose from the dead , yet he believes that everything including life came from nothing and death. :DGood one WJ.Either way someone or something rose from the dead.

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    Hi VestnikRA.Who is Jesus (Yeshua) to you?This truth is foundational for his Church.

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    Quote (Stu @ April 16 2009,23:59)I don’t believe in any of these options. I have already explained this to you on at least two occasions. You are ready to judge me against strawmen of what I believe. What does that say about you, t8?OK. Thanks for being forthcoming, I must have missed your previous revealing of this.So Stu, you don't believe i…[Read more]

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