Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 09 2010,11:08)Saying that Jesus is one with God doesn't mean he is not God either.Sorry but it does. Being one in unity by its very definition implies more than one.Saying that a man can be one with a woman doesn't actually make the man the woman too. A man and a woman who are one, are in number, two, and in purpose…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 09 2010,10:57)t8If all things are by him and through him and for him, then he is God!John 1:1-3, Rom 11:36, 1 Cor 8:6,Jesus is self-existent t8! And at this time is not yet subject to the Father. 1 Cor 15By him all things consist. Col 1:17, and all things are upheld by the word of his power, Heb 1:3He is our Great…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 09 2010,02:40)t8I do not see any scriptures that say….Let not your heart be troubled: “ye believe in God, believe also in me (t8)“. John 14:1I do not see any scriptures that say….Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and “purify **unto himself** (t8) a peculiar people“, zealous of…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 09 2010,02:34)This is feeble man! The One who sits upon the throne and the Lamb are worshiped not for who they are but for the works they have done.Then you have answered the question regarding both being worshipped as God. They are not, one is identified as God and another as the lamb, and they are honoured for what they…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 09 2010,01:54)t8,You say “in the same sense” we are one with the Father?Hmmmmmm….. Jesus said that He was one with the Father in saving and guarding the sheep:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 09 2010,05:29)JackI see what you mean. I have heard t8 say he worships Jesus but not as God!I don't want to be a judge and say that they don't worship, but I will say it seems like a lot of lip service going on when they talk about Jesus as being Lord.I am reminded of the words “They honor me with their lips but…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 09 2010,03:19)Or are you saying: “Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God , and Jesus Christ , whom you have sent.”Yes this is the way to read it. The Father sent the son, and this verse says that the Only true God sent the son, hence the Father is the only true God.

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 30 2009,03:24)TO ALL:Gene claims that he worships the Father only. But the whole creation worships the Father and the Son:“And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying:      'Blessing and honor and glory and power      Be…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 08 2010,13:30)Jesus also says that we are to believe in him to have eternal life. That is the whole point, they are one and you cannot have one without the other!WJBut in the same sense that Jesus is one with the Father, we can be one with God, Jesus, and each other.John 17:21that all of them may be one, Father, just…[Read more]

Welcome JustAskin.This verse says it all.John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Yeah, I thought that too.

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 07 2010,11:13)Israel is, and so are others referred to as the son or sons of God.That is my answer. Read my previous post.

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2010,17:36)Maybe kiwis find earnest discussions about Imaginary Friends entertaining.StuartActually Stu, I think you speak for yourself only.Who else?

I have answered it before. Jesus said ye are gods, ye are sons of the Most High God. He said that to those whom God had a covenant with. Angels are even called the sons of God.Israel is, and so are others referred to as the son or sons of God.But saying that Jesus is the son of God in the same way as others is misleading. Jesus is the prototype…[Read more]

I explained this to you before.There are many firstborns, even I have one.But there is only one first born of all creation. There is only one who came from God and was not created.Jesus wasn't created like all else. A body was prepared for him and God sent him into the world after he sent his servants. Jesus existed in the form of God and emptied…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,09:27)As far as God sending another, Don't you believe He sent Paul?As far as God sending others, he has sent many. The prophets, apostles, and servants in the form of men and angel.But God never sent another messiah and he has only one begotten who is that messiah.Jesus said “I tell you the truth, I am the gate…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,09:27)I have to ask you have the works of Satan ceased? If it hasn't then you are asking someone to believe that 2000 years didn't make a dent on satanic activity if that was the plan of God.It is easy to understand. God sent his son into the world that we MIGHT be saved. It is up to us now. We can be saved by the…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,09:27)1 John 2:2222 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.Muslims do not deny that Jesus is The Christ so it does not apply. But just to explain it clearly to you, look:That is true, but the one who denies that he is the…[Read more]

The main problems I see are as follows:1) You reject the truth that Jesus is the son of the living God. You must reject this as this rejection is taught in the Koran. However, this truth is the foundation of the Church. It is what Jesus built his Church on. Here is why this belief is condemned.1 John 2:2222 Who is the liar but the one who denies…[Read more]

His sacrifice allowed eternal redemption. Therefore he died once for all. When we sin, we have a covenant with God.Matthew 26:28This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.Hebrews 9:15For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal…[Read more]