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    Look at the underside of a rug. In some cases it appears chaotic or without pattern. When you turn it over, you can see the pattern that is supported by what appears to be chaotic. Or think of a water boiling in a kettle. If you zoom in on the particles moving around, it might be chaotic, but when you take a few steps back and see a guy making a…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 04 2010,09:00)You have said that Christ is God “functionally.” Does He reign over the rocks of the desert? Or does He reign over His people?Jesus said of those with God's function that they were “theos”. I suppose that you have a problem with Jesus? Because you seem to have a problem with everyone else who repeats what…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 04 2010,09:32)You can't have it both ways Nick. If Christ is God “functionally,” then He is supreme over YOU. You must accept Him as your Sovereign or retract your statement that He is God “functionally.”thinkerThinker, you fail to realise that it was God that made Jesus both Lord and Christ.God appointed him to rule over…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2010,07:36)So Jesus does not get any credit or glory for giving his own blood and life for you? So you have two “Two Savours”!AriansTwo SavoursTwo MastersTwo LordsWJWJ, while you are at it, (and playing with words) don't forget to add Moses who was a saviour of the Israelites and don't forget to add Joseph who was…[Read more]

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    Apologies, this is a debate between me and BD and he stipulated that no one else is to participate.I didn't read the title when I replied.Shall I delete these posts BD?

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 03 2010,19:00)Can you do any of those things, or do you just have analogies that explain nothing?Yes I can do it on my level. This web site is just a bunch of code which sends out commands that go to an interpreter to output the desired result.Likewise, it is God who said (commanded) let there be light and there was light. I can…[Read more]

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    Stu, your mind is to lowly focussed to understand. God is outside his own creation. I cannot explain what is it like out there but suffice to say, I am outside my computer and can create things in cyberspace with it. I can only use such language as I have never had the privilege of being lifted out of all the dimensions in order to give you a…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,16:43)Are you “Heaven”?Anyone can become disgruntled at anytime ask the post office employees who after years of dedication became killers.You should make it the same for everyone or just for moderatorsYou are entitled to your opinion BD.Editing gives no advantage, just makes posts read a bit better from time to…[Read more]

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    I should also mention that it is these men who lead men astray.The JWs started because of Russell or some other guy whose name escapes me.Catholics were started by Athanasius and Constantine. They were they ones that laid this stumbling block which led to this organisation.Islam has Mohammed.Mormons have Joseph Smith.Atheists have Charles…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,16:49)T8 you are promoting Christianity.You are not promoting God Almighty like a Jehovah's witness would, they are much more accurate than what you promote because they love GOD ALMIGHTY first in accordance with the principles of Christ.Jehovah witnesses are the true Christians they are Muslims but don't call…[Read more]

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    What you fail to realise Stu, is that I am not saying that all believers are perfect and non-believers are engaging in acts of evil. You need to stop reacting in the extreme to everything you dislike. It is obvious immature behaviour for all to see.I am saying that if men do not have consequences for their actions, then they will do those actions…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Oh, this topic is about the Trinity.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,17:43)And yet you do not accept, you condemn.What's more is you condemn the Truth, ISLAM is THE TRUTH.Islam and Jesus teachings are not from the same source.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 02 2010,01:13)Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 01 2010,03:33)Ed     -Bodhitharta's God is your God-  Karmarie,What if I came up to you and told you we both had the same father. When you asked me to describe “our father”, there were some common characteristics, but others were different. I said he was 6' 2″ while your father is 5' 10…[Read more]

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    I don't really have to. It is common sense that some people will do evil if they think that they will get away with it. If they think that they will be punished for it, then they will be less likely to do it.Imagine if you removed the law of the USA and said there are no laws and no prosecutions. Do you think that crime would increase? If so, then…[Read more]

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    theThinker,Jesus clearly refers to his Father as God. This is not Jesus the man on earth saying this, but an exalted Jesus at the right hand of God. A being with hair white like wool, and as white as snow, and his eyes like blazing fire. In other words this is a glorified Jesus, and not Jesus confined to human flesh.When Jesus walked this earth he…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 03 2010,11:42)Hi JAQuote (JustAskin @ Feb. 02 2010,12:55)I openly acknowledge that interpretation is down to the reader: Quote “Any interpretation is bound in the mind of teh interpretaer but to say it was God himself is truly absurd.”Was Moses absurd when he saw the backside of God?And he said, I beseech thee, shew…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 03 2010,11:42)Hi JAQuote (JustAskin @ Feb. 02 2010,12:55)I openly acknowledge that interpretation is down to the reader: Quote “Any interpretation is bound in the mind of teh interpretaer but to say it was God himself is truly absurd.”Was Moses absurd when he saw the backside of God?And he said, I beseech thee, shew…[Read more]

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    Agreed. People who hang onto bias and don't believe in a fair trial, end up doing themselves a great disservice by becoming ignorant which has the same effect as lacking in understanding and intelligence.

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    Again you missed the point completely. He is the express image of God the fullness of the Deity or God's nature in bodily form. We do not have a full measure or reflect the invisible God in full. Think of it like this. If we were prisms and God is like light, then without light, we have no glory of our own. When light passes through a prism it…[Read more]

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