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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Gene @ Feb. 18 2010,04:13)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 17 2010,12:44)I think that trying to convince people that there is no free will is in itself an oxymoron.Trying to convince someone of anything requires the ability to reason and the ability to choose what to believe. So why waste your time convincing people that there is no free will. It makes me…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 18 2010,05:48)Amen brother! It says that “every creature in heaven and in earth and under the earth” give glory and honor to the Father and the Lamb. Oh, wait a minute…maybe the Bible is wrong. It should say, “Every creature but JA….”Actually it says to God and the Lamb. God is one and the Lamb is another obviously.…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Page 1 question 22 in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2010,23:03)I guess it is only fair to point out that t8 has made a set of brilliant excuses for the scriptural contradictions regarding whether you can see god or not, here:https://www.heavennet.net/answers/answer33.htmHis most ingenious excuse is, I believe, this one:the word Lord in our modern translations doesn't always…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Page 1 question 22 in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    And what does Tom have to do with anything. Sorry I didn't read your post.I might be wrong, but I thought that Scientology doesn't believe anything on faith. What is true is true because they have personally observed it to be true. If this is the case, it actually sounds very much the argument you continually make. i.e., that you believe only that…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Page 1 question 22 in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 17 2010,19:14)You have never been able to describe to me anything that I cannot ‘see’ (or rather see through).What about a black hole, or dark energy?What about a murder that you never witnessed? What about a tree that has been uprooted and is lying on its side? Can you believe that it at one time fell over, even though you nev…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Page 1 question 22 in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 17 2010,19:14)Your ‘big picture’ is the sum of its parts. Each part is absurd.And your big picture is that nothing caused the universe, or something did, but that something was strictly not alive in any way coz it just wasn't.That is absurd is it not? You have failed to date to show how nothing can be turned into something and…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 17 2010,22:35)If you start with a single breeding pair then the expected result in virtually every case would be extinction.So if you put a male and a female human on an isolated but bountiful island, then they would become extinct?Um, I think I have to disagree. Sure there is this thing about incest and the genetic risks involved…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 13 2010,14:49)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 13 2010,10:16)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 10 2010,21:18)ccording to real fossil and DNA evidence, this is NOT the genealogy of the first people, because there never was a time of just a few humans.Interesting comment. Did humans kind of explode on the scene? say 120 at the very beginning.It was a whole…[Read more]

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    If faith is so abhorrent, then why spend half your days talking about it?That is a fair enough question. Unless it is good for me, if I hate something, I tend to keep away from it.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 8 months ago

    I think that trying to convince people that there is no free will is in itself an oxymoron.Trying to convince someone of anything requires the ability to reason and the ability to choose what to believe. So why waste your time convincing people that there is no free will. It makes me wonder if deep down you believe in free will, otherwise why even…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Page 1 question 22 in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    BTW, thanks for challenging the writing, that is what the forum is for. I might get around to reading it later today.Thanks.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Page 1 question 22 in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Hi Stu. When you do not believe in the big picture, then the finer points will also seem foolish.Our gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing. Likewise, not believing in a creator is foolishness to me as I agree that it is truly a fool that says in his heart that there is no God.Not all can see, some are blind. I use to make the same kind…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Page 1 question 2 in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Nice one Stu. You posted it in the right forum.As for the post… well, I might read it. I suspect however that I have read this all before from you, in which case, you have nothing new or compelling to offer and it wouldn't be worth my time revisiting.Is there anything new in it from you, or the same old same old?

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    Ha ha. Nice one.Free will gets in the way when it comes to people and unity.True unity is a unity in love, spirit, and truth.A person with these qualities, is a person after God's heart.

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 13 2010,05:42)That’s the problem with a religious website, the material is pointlessly dull, a recitation of fantasy stories by adults in broadcast mode that do not add up and are not inclusive of other people, until you start discussing on what basis the believer believes as he or she does.  Then it is interesting.The problem wi…[Read more]

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    This topic is about Dinosaurs.On that note, they (scientists) are telling us that they became birds now. Obviously, being very big was a disadvantage when flying. So the heavy ones never got off the ground so to speak.  The smaller ones could fly away quicker from enemies and had more chance to pass on their DNA.Anyway that would be my 2 cents…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 10 2010,21:18)ccording to real fossil and DNA evidence, this is NOT the genealogy of the first people, because there never was a time of just a few humans.Interesting comment. Did humans kind of explode on the scene? say 120 at the very beginning.

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    Correct. As the saying goes, even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

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    Here we are later on, stating the obvious. Yet people still listen to people like him.In case there was any doubt, here is how Ron's ads appeared in 2008.This is what they say in 2010.To all those who posted earlier on, promoting this guy, you can feel free to make a public apology. It would be the best thing to do and in the spirit of repentance.…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 05 2010,10:35)t8So God does not have a form?So God is limited to take on any form that he wants without it being an Angel?Wrong!WJGod's form is spirit and he is invisible. This cannot even be challenged without challenging scripture itself. God dwells inside beings however. It is said “God was in Christ reconciling…[Read more]

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