I should add this. That Christ being slain from the foundation of the world illustrates the possibility that the beneficial effects of that death, is the same as if that sacrifice had been made before the creation of the world. Thus, Old testament saints are washed clean in Christ's blood the same as we are today and for all aeons.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 11 2010,17:21)Notice the verse you gave says”you put up with it easily enough.” notice this verse was not in a future context but a past or even present context.That doesn't matter because the point I am making is that you or anyone can preach another Jesus. And lets face it, we already both know that this is possible…[Read more]

Actually this is going off track, but here is my cents worth.Good question. My guess is that sin won't be an option on the table. Why? Because we have already chosen to be righteous while we were here. So the choice is already made and then we will be in perfection. I think you will find that it will be impossible to sin in the new creation for…[Read more]

Stu, you are like a fish who says “I don't believe in water”.

Quote (Stu @ Mar. 11 2010,21:35)But the sanitised black-and-white christian's world of good / evil, fool / wise man cannot allow consideration of the shades of grey that are there.What about the sanitised black and white world of atheism?No shade of anything but black (no color), no God and that is it.No open mind.

Oh another thing. If free will doesn't exist, then you can't blame me for what I am writing. You just need to accept it.

If you cannot see sense, then yes, nonsense is the result.

What are you offering?Join the apes.Await your destiny, to become compost.And that is salvation?I can see you are going to gain a huge following.

Hey Stu, William Shatner is waiting for you to join his worth while cause.Watch the video for a quick intro.http://myouterspace.com/index.p….emid=99

Well it is a matter of opinion what you call a man who rejects the giver of all life. I agree with scripture, but I suppose if you are the one who rejects the Living God, then you might also find it convenient to say that you are the wise one. It might make you  feel better now, but after that is the judgement. You can't change that by trying to…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Mar. 11 2010,18:56)I cannot think of a single worthwhile “truth” in christianity.What does that say about your life? You spend all this time opposing something that is not worth while?Look at those 2 words. “Worth & While”. You are obviously dedicating your life for a very unworthy cause according to your own standard. Hmmm. You have…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Mar. 11 2010,18:58)I wasn't defending the religious concept of free will, you understand. It is simplistic nonsense.StuartOf course you didn't CHOOSE to write this. Free will doesn't exist.

Sure I will be willing to debate that. Just don't expect quick replies. I might be quick, I might not, but I will debate. Go ahead and set it up and stipulate the rules that you want people (or just myself) to adhere to.

Or a truthful one.Sometimes the truth hurts, but hurting is good because it often stops us from doing things that lead to an early death or death of the soul.

We can also use our free will to serve God and do his will. That is a choice too. Sorry if you thought that free-will was only for evil. No you can choose good as well. That is why we don't have an excuse for who we are in the end.

I admit that “The fool has said in his heart there is no God” is not my material. I got it from the Bible.

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Mar. 05 2010,14:12)T8,Again, I don't begrudge you having a preference for one option over another.  Obviously, you don't subscribe to what I proposed, but I was only trying to show that there were more than the three options that you originally provided.  I don't think that we have a disagreement here.Yup, I got that. This is w…[Read more]

It is easy to preach another Jesus. A person just needs to make up a person and call that person Jesus and then make any claim they want, because they made him up. But of course, that doesn't make it right.2 Corinthians 11:4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 11 2010,12:29)Yes, Because it is not “Islam” like an across the board agreement in these predictions or there interpretation. I only stand completely behind what is in the Quran and what is in the Bible.That should in your mind, open the possibility that Islam's belief that the Quran is scripture is wrong.

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 18 2009,21:15)Money is a concept, not a material thing.Paper money.If you tell me how nothing can make something, then we will apply it to making paper money (pref $100 bills) out of nothing. We will also need to patent the method and charge a licencing fee to all who make something out of nothing using the same method.