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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 26 2010,08:49)If we are going to be the same kind which is man created in the image of God, then that means that Jesus is merely a man!Jesus existed in the form of God, emptied himself and partook of flesh. He then returned to the glory that he had in the beginning. For us, we are born flesh, and then we receive a new…[Read more]

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    Kurioshe to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lordthe possessor and disposer of a thingthe owner; one who has control of the person, the masterin the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperoris a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants greet their masterIt is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,08:29)t8 said:Quote Did you not know that Lord and YHWH are not the same word?The name YHWH translates into the New testament as “Kurios” (or Lord). ALWAYS!JackBut the point is that you do not call your landlord landYHWH.YHWH may mean Lord, just as “David' means beloved. God is YHWH and Jesus as Lord is not the…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 26 2010,08:16)The problem is Jesus is not like every one else. He is in very nature God, we are not in very nature God.1 John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.Did you not…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 26 2010,08:09)If Paul is implying that the “One God” is exclusive to the Father then he is also saying that the “One Lord” is exclusive to Jesus.Acts 2:36“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”God didn't make Jesus God, he made him Lord and…[Read more]

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    Some thing to consider.Matthew 28:19 (English-NIV)Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,In the name of something refers to the authority of something. E.g If I say in the name of the Law, then I am invoking the authority of the Law. If I am saying something in…[Read more]

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    Fair enough. But when valid points are made and then ontology becomes the last line of defense, then I immediately wonder why scripture is not good enough to stand on its own. It appears from scripture that we can partake in divine nature and it is not a stretch to believe that Jesus has divine nature, (he existed in the form of God after all).…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 26 2010,07:39)Because everyone here including yourself believes he knows the truth.It is written that there is one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ. You believe that there is one God the Father, the Son, and the Spirit.I at least believe what Paul wrote and he said for US there is one God the Father.So yes I…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ May 26 2010,07:22)WJ, what is Ontology – it too big a word for me this time of night in UK?It's a word that Trinitarians sometimes resort to when they can't argue their position from scripture. In this case, they can resort to references outside scripture to back up their position and it also has the added bonus of making them…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ May 13 2010,01:43)Keith,Perhaps you are right.Tell you what, you stop posting inconsistent and erronous arguments and we will stop the 'ad hominems'.If you believe in the Trinity doctrine, then post with that as your base.If some question arises that successfully disputes your claim, then acknowledge it. Don't make up silly…[Read more]

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    Yes, I am tending to think that it would be best to offer it as a sort of home page for members that can be linked to from their profile.It would be up to each member that wanted to participate to have feedback from others or to close their page from replies.

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    How long is hell in existence?Until it is thrown into the Lake of Fire. The same fire that will burn all the elements will consume the wicked.

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    Yes there is always the risk that this could get ugly. But there is also the risk that iron sharpens iron. I myself am not afraid to be scrutinized by others. I prefer to have my judgement now rather than later, so I am not afraid of what others might say about me. I want to hear what they have to say. I just need the wisdom to know which voices…[Read more]

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    The only problem I can see with that is there is no feature that allows one member to exclusively edit a topic. The most that can be done is a group being able to post in a forum. e.g., believers in Believers Place. I can't drill down the permissions any narrower than that.Unless a member requests for their topic to be open again for the purposes…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 25 2010,10:21)NHYet the Trinity discussion has been here since the forum started.WJActually it is probably the Trinitarians who keep the topic alive.The first one was started by a Trinitarian and they just kept coming back for more. No problem with that of course. It should be discussed.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 25 2010,10:21)NHYet the Trinity discussion has been here since the forum started.WJActually it is probably the Trinitarians who keep the topic alive.The first one was started by a Trinitarian and they just kept coming back for more. No problem with that of course. It should be discussed.

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    Unfortunately no. That feature would require an extensive hack at which time it would be easier to migrate the board to another package that had such a feature.

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    Another complimentary idea. In the profile page for each member, there is space for the URL of your homepage. This could be used to point to the yet to be implimented Members page, or to a homepage outside of Heaven Net which some are already doing.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2010,16:54)Hi all!Why all the accusations and condemnation?Why are you not addressing the fact that Matthew 28:19 speaks of a “Trinity”?Hello?WJIs this the verse that you hang your trinity doctrine from?

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    What is the problem with that?If a person doesn't believe in the foundation of the faith in scripture, then they are only going to argue against that foundation and little progress would be made elsewhere. I know this because that is how it use to be. Atheists turned every topic into the existence of God, and Moslems into Jesus not being the son…[Read more]

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