Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2010,13:12)I don't believe that anyone can show some scripture that clearly connects the Son of God with a time of His 'appointing' as firstborn as we can with the appointed firstborn that David and Israel are.  So, if there was no specific appointment, then the natural meaning of the term 'firstborn' would be the…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 31 2010,16:11)Quote (t8 @ May 31 2010,13:05)Let me say that a first-born is literally a first-born and has certain privileges as a result.David was described as a “first born” (ps 89) and yet he was the literal last born of Jesse. There goes that theory….Not so quick. You need to look deeper.”Dedicate to me every firstborn…[Read more]

Quote (katjo @ May 31 2010,23:31)Karmarie,I know Rev; I know my bible, Ive been studying and going to church 3 times a week for years. it sounds like every one is freaked out to think there is a place of torment. BUT THERE IS! When you read something about hell and dont like it , you cannot just say its not true. NO GOD does not want you going…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ May 12 2010,19:48)How many posts ago was it that I claimed we are all agnostic?And you are agnostic now. Maybe that argument rubbed off on you in the end.https://www.heavennet.net/writings/atheist.htmAnd your belief that there was about a 0.05% or 0.5% chance of their being a God is now retracted?

You first have to acknowledge the existence of a God before you ask that.You are trying to run before you can walk.Slow down and start at first base. Then progress from there.I know it is tempting to try and do bigger things, but when you have the basics you can progress from there. I mean if you never skied before, would you start at the top of…[Read more]

In other words, no answer, no clue, so dodge the question and don't partake of the debate.As long as you dodge the beginning, then all the other stuff you talk about has no foundation.No foundation means that you have no context and all that you build falls down because nothing holds it up.Try building a house without a foundation. Good luck.You…[Read more]

Evolution world view.Who am I? Nothing important, in fact you are a problem, you pollute the environment.Where did I come from? A cosmic burpWhy am I here? There is no purpose. Just have fun. Do what feels good.Where am I going when I die? You are going to the grave to be recycled as a worm or something.Sounds like no future to me.

I looked at the video.He offers 250,000 if you have proof of evolution.Should cash in Stu. And I want a 10% finders fee.

Good post karmarie.

Good question.

The doctrine of eternal punishment requires one to have eternal life in order to then consciously experience the burning of the fire forever.Destruction is the opposite as it is defined as the second death. It appears that the wicked will cease to exists like animals/beasts as they will be subject to the same destruction as the universe.2 Peter…[Read more]

Yeah, I did quite a bit of rearranging and didn't carefully read what I typed before posting.Yes, Hebrews 1.5 seems to be talking about his birth too.So you think the difference is being born as a kind, as opposed to being transformed or conforming to something?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2010,12:46)Hi, Those who ascribe to the catholic dogma of trinity should know about the source. Catholicism pays lip service to the scriptures calling them 'the sacred scriptures'. Then she calls the collection of her own bizarre dogmas 'sacred tradition'. Lastly she claims that she alone has the right to interpret…[Read more]

Eternal destruction means that there is no possibility of a resurrection. Forever destroyed and cut away from God's presence. Never to have life again.e.g., Babylon was destroyed and Saddam tried to rebuild it. But eternal destruction would rule out any possibility that it could be brought back or re-created.

John 1:14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.Hebrews 1:5For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?Begotten =…[Read more]

First off the bat. I found this verse.Isaiah 45:10Woe to him who says to his father, 'What have you begotten?' or to his mother, 'What have you brought to birth?'The following link shows the source word for both begotten and birth. http://bible.worthwhile.com/bible.p….45&w=10Begotten = yaladto bear, bring forth, beget, gender, travailbirth =…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ May 31 2010,10:17)Could someone just explain the difference between 'Born' and 'Begotten' and how and when each is used along with Scriptural verses (other than, 'of Jesus' where again i ask: Which 'Today' before days was he begotten?), please, please,Responses are being Posted that don't answer the question. Is there a reasin…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2010,09:55)Hi Roo,HI ALL!  THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO MOVE A TOPIC AWAY FROM THE DAMNING INFORMATION CONTAINED ON ANOTHER THREAD.  IT IS ONLY A DISTRACTION FOR ROO CANNOT REFUTE THE FACTS ON THE OTHER SITE.  DON'T FALL FOR ITAnswer on my thread, Roo.Hey at least he changed his name from the thinker (which didn't suit) to so…[Read more]

Hey kanga you are bouncing all over the place as david has shown.Let me say that a first-born is literally a first-born and has certain privileges as a result. Only when a first-born gives up his birthright does it become open to another. It seems there are some people who make the exception the rule.