Quote (gollamudi @ June 14 2010,20:39)Hi brother T8,Thanks again for your responses above. Yes, you are right in saying that you have right to choose not believe what I say here. But the problem here is not that we have complete free will but a biased will which is the result of our own understanding on the data fed to us from various sources.…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ June 14 2010,18:39)So I guess we should throw the Old Testament away then… or is there another answer?Yes there is an answer. Take a look at Judges 13:20-22 20 As the flame blazed up from the altar toward heaven, the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame. Seeing this, Manoah and his wife fell with their faces to the ground. 21…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 14 2010,16:49)Hi karmarie,God gave me some more insight about the 'firstborn over all creation' and 'firstborn from among the dead' this weekend.  I wrote about it here: (eighth post from the top)https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=320I thought I would quote your post here as it is relevant.Quote (Lightenup @ June 14…[Read more]

@ gollamudiHow am I suppose to choose freely to believe what you are saying if you are saying that I cannot even do that because I can't choose freely?Why even bother to convince me if I cannot choose to believe you?

Quote (gollamudi @ June 14 2010,15:52)You are wrong brother T8,God had influenced Adam and Even on both ways not alone one way that is the tree of life but also the tree of knowledge to know good and evil.Peace to youAdamAnd according to your doctrine, who is influencing me for not agreeing with you? Also, if you are right, then it is not my fault…[Read more]

Good scripture Ed J.But those who disagree with free will have chosen freely to disagree that there is no free will.Scripture might not be enough to sway them to choose otherwise.We will see if they can exercise their ability to choose.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 14 2010,12:55)Quote (t8 @ June 14 2010,12:51)Yes there is an interesting argument to be had here. If it says that God sent his son, does it mean that he was the son and then was sent, or that he was sent and then become the son.e.g., it also says that God made all things through Christ. But when that happened he wasn't the…[Read more]

Thanks Irene.

Yes there is an interesting argument to be had here. If it says that God sent his son, does it mean that he was the son and then was sent, or that he was sent and then become the son.e.g., it also says that God made all things through Christ. But when that happened he wasn't the Christ at that point was he?Or is it that we are subjecting our…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 07 2010,02:17)T8…….Good let look at what your have said. (IF) we confess our sins, Now consider why you even would (confess) your sins. Is it because You Just out of the (BLUE) decided to confess them, or was it because Something (IN) you (Influencing) you to do that. Remember if we are going to trout the word…[Read more]

Hey look, I chose freely to make another post.

Quote (Oxy @ June 13 2010,16:27)Quote (t8 @ June 13 2010,13:25)No man has ever seen God.Men have seen God's glory in the form of angels, the son, even creation.But no man has seen God's form.Actually he is a spirit that can dwell in all. How do you see that?Like a prism when light shines into it. The glory of the light is beautiful, but the prism…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 11 2010,09:52)BUMPED FROM SEPT 13 2009Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Sep. 13 2009,04:37)t8's source says:Quote But can we really read the word 'Theos' in John 1:1c as qualitative rather using it to refer to an identity? The most likely candidate is that the last instance of 'theos' (in John 1:1c) is qualitative. This is true…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 11 2010,09:52)BUMPED FROM SEPT 13 2009Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Sep. 13 2009,04:37)t8's source says:Quote But can we really read the word 'Theos' in John 1:1c as qualitative rather using it to refer to an identity? The most likely candidate is that the last instance of 'theos' (in John 1:1c) is qualitative. This is true…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,12:55)No Mike. You've made the assertion. The burden of proof in firmly on you. Can you back your assertion up Mike?Of course we know you can't. I just wish you'd learn from your mistakes.If I taught a Binity, Quadinity, or Billionity, the burden of proof would be on me. Trinity is no different.For us there is one God…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,12:55)No Mike. You've made the assertion. The burden of proof in firmly on you. Can you back your assertion up Mike?Of course we know you can't. I just wish you'd learn from your mistakes.If I taught a Binity, Quadinity, or Billionity, the burden of proof would be on me. Trinity is no different.For us there is one God…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 11 2010,09:58)I almost forgot that you never answered how Jesus could be God “qualitatively” without being God.Eve was adam qualitatively speaking. She wasn't Adam though.Adam identifies the person, adam means 'man'.God made Adam first.God made adam male and female.I don't think Trinitarians are able to grasp the…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 11 2010,09:58)I almost forgot that you never answered how Jesus could be God “qualitatively” without being God.Eve was adam qualitatively speaking. She wasn't Adam though.Adam identifies the person, adam means 'man'.God made Adam first.God made adam male and female.I don't think Trinitarians are able to grasp the…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ June 13 2010,08:38)Sorry, totally disagree with you on this one.  My soul and my spirit are two distinctly different things.Is the marrow the bone or part of the bone?Perhaps one is a part of the other and can be used interchangeably because of that?

No man has ever seen God.Men have seen God's glory in the form of angels, the son, even creation.But no man has seen God's form.Actually he is a spirit that can dwell in all. How do you see that?Like a prism when light shines into it. The glory of the light is beautiful, but the prism without light is dull even invisible.So think of God as light…[Read more]