Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 18 2010,12:28)T8 ……….Ask a dope addict if that is true of not, no matter how hard they try they are unable to deliever themselves , not matte rhow much they hate being addicted. I personally know this for a (FACT) not that i ever was a dope additic, but i certanilt had a nicotine habit and for a year it tride…[Read more]

We can't help it Gol, we have no free will to choose otherwise.

When we are saying that men have free will, we are talking of today. I wasn't aware that this debate was about 2000 years ago.All men are being convicted of sin, righteousness, and judgement today.Men are without excuse because even if they have never heard the gospel, they have the law which is written in their hearts.There is no excuse for…[Read more]

Please discuss Eusebius in this thread.Thanks.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2010,13:29)Quote (t8 @ June 18 2010,13:24)I have set up a discussion on “Eusebius”, so we can move on with the “Protokos in colossians 1:15 means “preeminent” topic.Hi t8,I started an Eusebius thread, but Jack thinks he is more in control if the thread has his name as starter.  So he moved our discussion about Eusebius…[Read more]

Is 1:18. For us there is one God the Father. You can't ignore that we believe the truth in this matter and no amount of special wording changes that fact. Truth is truth. Fight it and you will lose.The Father is the one God.We are confident that the Father is the one true God and he sent Jesus to us.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 18 2010,12:57)Quote (t8 @ June 18 2010,12:51)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 18 2010,12:48)“And the God of peace shall crush satan under YOUR feet SHORTLY” (Rom. 16:20).Crushing Satan under our feet is not the same as Satan being thrown into the Lake of Fire. The whole world is still under the sway of the evil one. We are…[Read more]

I have set up a discussion on “Eusebius”, so we can move on with the “Protokos in colossians 1:15 means “preeminent” topic.

Oh, I didn't get that.Might have been clearer to me had you said “man” or “mankind” instead of “men'.Also, considering your other beliefs, new earth and Satan in the Lake of Fire, it wasn't hard to think that this is what you meant.Apologies.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 15 2010,08:01)There is only “One Spirit” and “One God” that lives in his people!Are we making progress?God the Father is the true God and he is Spirit.But what do you make of angels. Are they not spirits?Are they false spirits as you would say when arguing the usage of gods/theos.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 15 2010,05:50)Kathi said:Quote The Son didn't stop being a son to become a son in the flesh.It was by becoming flesh that Jesus became a Son. Paul said that he was “born according to the seed of David and decreed to be the Son of God” (Rom. 1).Jesus could not have neen God's Son before becoming flesh because ONLY MEN…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 18 2010,12:48)“And the God of peace shall crush satan under YOUR feet SHORTLY” (Rom. 16:20).Crushing Satan under our feet is not the same as Satan being thrown into the Lake of Fire. The whole world is still under the sway of the evil one. We are in the world, but the evil one touches us not.You are still a poor man if…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 18 2010,11:36)T8……….You will (ALWAYS) Chose the one that has the GREATEST (INFLUENCE on YOU, not matter what.And it is us to choose that which has the greatest influence?Your teaching suggests strongly that people who are condemned have no ability to choose freely because evil and unrighteousness was a stronger…[Read more]

This is just getting silly.We all agree that we are free to choose. That is what choice is and it is our will where we make these choices.God judges us on the choices we were given, not the ones we weren't given.Therefore our will is free to choose among the choices before us.We are responsible for what we choose. Simple as that.Call it what you…[Read more]

Hi KJ.Satan is in the Lake of Fire and we are in the new earth?You poor man. You have no hope then, as your hope is this world. Are you a Christadelphian or something?

To those who believe there is no free will, why are you even bothering to try and make people choose to believe your view. Can you see the irony?

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 18 2010,02:32)Does the fact that people make choices based on REASONS mean anything? If there was total freedom in a choice then there would not be a reason to that choice would there be?Jodi, we can choose freely between the options that are presented to us. e.g., do I follow the urgings of the flesh, or choose to be led by…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 17 2010,07:16)It's common sense that satan must be in the lake of fire. The opposite of common sense is denial.KJYou are on your own with that statement.And people should rightly be suspicious of anyone that says that Satan is not actively tempting and deceiving.

KJ, why not change the kangaroo avatar for a fox?

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ April 17 2010,06:33)I request that you produce a scripture which says that Christ's Father is His Sovereign Lord. thinkerRevelation 3:12Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem,…[Read more]