The Trinity started off as a Binity and it transformed into the Trinity. Is the Quadrinity next?

Yes an honorable debate would serve the truth better than trying to promote one's ego.

What matters is that the Father is the one true God and that Jesus is the Lord. You see, God made Jesus both Lord and Christ. And no one made the Father God. God is the originator. He is the source. He is not an image of anyone. He is the Most High and Father of all (that is good).1 Corinthians 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from…[Read more]

Yes, SF. This board has those who seek the truth, the religiously bound, and those who refuse to accept that there is a creator, (also bound by personal belief). So it is no wonder that we have what we have here. A three way debate. Although in truth, what we have are those who align to truth and those who do not.You have to admit that it is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,11:49)t8, I don't believe the devil is in the details of scripture. The Bible is the exception to that rule, right?What I mean by that statement is that our yes is yes and our no is no.Some people here have to justify their doctrine with other details.e.g., scripture says that for us, there is one God the Father.…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,11:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,11:41)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 18 2010,16:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2010,15:34)goodnight pagan,What!Did you not know that triune gods are pagan in origin?  They are not of Judeao-Christian origin, Paul.   Who copied who?….One God the Father came first and some false gods f…

Yes Oxy. God is one. There is one God the Father. Not one God the Father, Son, Spirit. The latter is an alien doctrine that the first century believers wouldn't recognise.

Quote (Stu @ June 19 2010,07:46)I have no religion, so no insult perceived (except you nearly called me christian!).Anyway, this is the kind of interchristian bunfight I love to watch.Carry on!StuartA belief is not nothing even if the belief is nothing. A belief, no matter what is always something. So you are religious. Your religion states that…[Read more]

What is the answer guys. All become Trinitarians and live happily ever after. And then we can all say to God sorry for being wrong, but we were all wrong. Is that it?Sorry but some people love the the truth more than their own egos. Inflated egos get in the way of truth.

Do you want me to use my free will to choose to not believe in free will?Please explain yourself.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2010,15:38)Hi MB, Don't play in their playground where they can trip you up.Also, beware of the devil in the details.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 18 2010,15:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2010,14:41)I spent an hour answering this already, then when I went to preview, I lost everything.  So this is the slimmed-down “I'm angry” version.This is super-annoying. I sympathise with you here.That has never happened to me and I can't think of why it would happen. Maybe you…[Read more]

The hilarious thing about this debate is that if you are right, then we can't change because we have no free will. So you are wasting your time. It is almost as if you do not believe your own theory by trying to get us to choose what you believe.And if I am right, then you most likely will not see that we have free will because you believe we…[Read more]

I second that. What about it. To make it easy, just one thing per topic and let people weigh in when one person decides to dodge a legit point.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 18 2010,12:28)T8 ……….Ask a dope addict if that is true of not, no matter how hard they try they are unable to deliever themselves , not matte rhow much they hate being addicted. I personally know this for a (FACT) not that i ever was a dope additic, but i certanilt had a nicotine habit and for a year it tride…[Read more]

We can't help it Gol, we have no free will to choose otherwise.

When we are saying that men have free will, we are talking of today. I wasn't aware that this debate was about 2000 years ago.All men are being convicted of sin, righteousness, and judgement today.Men are without excuse because even if they have never heard the gospel, they have the law which is written in their hearts.There is no excuse for…[Read more]

Please discuss Eusebius in this thread.Thanks.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2010,13:29)Quote (t8 @ June 18 2010,13:24)I have set up a discussion on “Eusebius”, so we can move on with the “Protokos in colossians 1:15 means “preeminent” topic.Hi t8,I started an Eusebius thread, but Jack thinks he is more in control if the thread has his name as starter.  So he moved our discussion about Eusebius…[Read more]

Is 1:18. For us there is one God the Father. You can't ignore that we believe the truth in this matter and no amount of special wording changes that fact. Truth is truth. Fight it and you will lose.The Father is the one God.We are confident that the Father is the one true God and he sent Jesus to us.