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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 20 2010,04:43)Jesus did not exclude Himself when He addressed His Father as the one true God. If He had excluded Himself, then why did John later call Jesus the “True God and Eternal life?Look again.John 17:3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.See…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (gollamudi @ June 19 2010,21:40)Another wonderful post brother Gene and I hope brother T8 will accept this truth.Accept it with my freedom to choose using my will, and then give up on that free will after that?

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    Quote (Stu @ June 18 2010,17:58)Meaningless drivel. Finite and infinite are adjectives. Next?Oh I see. The concept of limited and eternal are now drivel.Right. That attitude explains a lot doesn't it.If you can't argue it, call it drivel and hopefully you win. Is that it? The problem however, is that people who can reason, will not accept that…[Read more]

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    Guys. Call a lie a lie. But do not lie to the Holy Spirit.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 3 months ago

    OK believers (us). We are being attacked by Trinitarians in greater number. Hold on to the truth that God is the Father and his son is Jesus and they cannot prevail. Fire in the hole.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 3 months ago

    OK believers (us). We are being attacked by Trinitarians in greater number. Hold on to the truth that God is the Father and his son is Jesus and they cannot prevail. Fire in the hole.

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 20 2010,08:25)Your argument rests on the premise that “Jehovah” is exclusively the name of the Father in the OT. This is an unproven assumption and that's where your logic breaks down. Substantiate your premise (i.e. prove that every reference to YHWH in the OT speaks solely of the Father of Yeshua) and you are moving towards…[Read more]

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    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,18:59)Quote (t8 @ June 19 2010,12:35)Yes Oxy. God is one. There is one God the Father. Not one God the Father, Son, Spirit. The latter is an alien doctrine that the first century believers wouldn't recognise.Alien t8?   From little green men in spaceships?  Perhaps it was them that gave me my Bible because that's what i…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,12:15)Seriously, I honestly just wish they would answer the points I make once in a while.When people do not answer, it is often because they cannot. Be encouraged by that because if they were true, they would show you the truth that would set you straight. But if they have nothing, it doesn't prove that you are…[Read more]

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    The other thing is that some guests say outrageous things and don't stick around to defend them. Because they are hidden as a guest, they feel they don't have to defend what they say. This is what happened quite a bit when guests use to post here. Having some kind of ID, usually means more chance of defending statements.

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    I think that is a good idea, but giving guests posting rights will open up the floodgates for spammers.If it wasn't for that, I would gladly give guests a say.

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,19:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 14 2010,05:10)Okay Dennison,I'll wait for a taker.  I've asked katjo, JA and Jack.  We'll see what happens.miket8, Mike has already agreed to this….OK, let it begin.I hope that the people involved will be honest. And remember it is OK,to say, “I don't know”. And in saying that, it d…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 19 2010,19:24)Hi all,I was recently adviced that if i want people to understand the simplicity of this format, and the good results it can produce, i need to be the example or in other words lead by example.So I have been thinking who would be great to debate.I have many choices. I cant debate KJ, or WJ, becuase we…[Read more]

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    Is 1:18, it is not of love to try and force someone to do something they are not sure about. You know that feeling where someone says sign here and you think, hmmm, what is the real meaning if I sign here, and while they are thinking about the consequences the sales rep is putting on the pressure.It appears to me that Mike just wants every point…[Read more]

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    Quote (gollamudi @ June 02 2010,17:38)This is where I differ with most of you here.I think I need to point this out. You differ with all main doctrines in scripture. Why do you think it is important to differ?It should be that the truth wins no matter what. Differing for the sake of differing or to be different doesn't make sense.

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    Which version?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2010,03:14)T8……..”can a Ethiopian change his Skin or a Leopard His spots”, why did Christ come to set the captives Free if they were already free to change by their so-called Free Will. Trying to throw humor at this as if were senseless in foolish on your Part, and is what all who can not defend their positions…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 3 months ago

    For us, there is one God the Father. For some others there is one God the Father, Son, Spirit.The first option states that there is one God or one who is God.The second option states that there is one God made up of 3 persons.The first option means we can refer to God has “him” and “he”.The second option means that God is referred to as “they” and…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 3 months ago

    For us, there is one God the Father. For some others there is one God the Father, Son, Spirit.The first option states that there is one God or one who is God.The second option states that there is one God made up of 3 persons.The first option means we can refer to God has “him” and “he”.The second option means that God is referred to as “they” and…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 3 months ago

    The Trinity started off as a Binity and it transformed into the Trinity. Is the Quadrinity next?

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