Just as a side not WJ, the Trinity Doctrine states that the son was begotten from eternity in some kind of eternal begotten state. I take it that you disagree with that part of your doctrine, in which case the RCC police and even many Protestant police would charge you with heresy. How to you plead?

The bible is actually terse in revealing things about angels.If anyone gives the Book of Enoch any credence, it certainly has much to say about the sons of God.It appears on a few occasions that some bible writers quote from this book, so if it is valid, it certainly would be the greatest writing that reveals information on the…[Read more]

Judging by the fact that there are at least Seraphs and Cherubs, it stands to reason that these types/groups have leaders. We know as JA has already pointed out that there was a Chief Cherub and we know Michael is a prince. He could be the prince of Seraphs or took over the job of the ex-chief cherub.We also know that it is Michael who casts the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 03 2010,02:21)SF………….No because we are to be as the Angels also, according to Jesus. Angles are Beings that have bodies only bodies that don't die as we are to have. God creates their spirits (IN) them and sends them forth to minister to us, But assured they do have Bodies they are livings Souls. God will also…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 02 2010,00:05)What is an Angel?Angels are Messengers.Even men are called angels.Both John and Jesus are referred to as angels.In the gospels we are told that a man or 2 men rolled away the stone of the tomb that Jesus was laid in, and in another version that an angel rolled away the stone.Heavenly Messengers IMO can include…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 02 2010,06:53)JA,What do you think the Son was before He came into being?He existed in the form of God, or with divine nature.So we just need to understand what the form of God is or what divine nature is IMO.New International Version (©1984)Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be…[Read more]

That is true SF, but what do you do when they don't follow the debate formats?What we are proposing is some kind of solution for those who do not comply.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 01 2010,02:09)Chosenone………As i said they Just do not get it brother. They are like the blind leading the blind. It just has not been given them or they could easily see these things. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………..geneIf that were true, according to your free will doctrine, they…[Read more]

So loaded questions or irrelivant questions can be ignored.And it is not like we penalize people for one infringement. It is the practice of ignoring good rebuttals, points, and scripture.People should not be allowed to try and convince people of something by using underhanded tactics. Dishonesty, dodging, and sly tactics need to go away.

What needs to be curbed is the practice of teaching something and ignoring legitimate rebuttals and points, and just continuing to blindly preach the same thing as if such points or rebuttals were never made.If you are going to teach something, you need to defend it. I am not condoning that we answer every question that is asked, because we all…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 06 2010,03:07)God's image = male, femaleWhat does it mean to you that Jesus is the image of the invisible God?

Quote (Stu @ July 30 2010,20:32)It's a bit hypocritical, don't you think, to accuse unnamed people of not being willing to respond to the points made to them when you have excluded those who debate the existence of your Imaginary Friend without first giving them responses to the very good points they made on that subject.Not true. There is a whole…[Read more]

Yes agreed. Flooding as it is sometimes called is actually against the rules too. We are not to overwhelm, but to place a light burden at the most.I hate it when someone overwhelms their opponent as a strategy to win. It does nothing for the truth and only aids in inflating the pride of the one who wants desperately to win and to satisfy his own ego.

If I go ahead and create a “Teachers Place” category that includes the Scripture & Doctrine forum, then I might also add in another forum, where members can take each other to task, over questions that have been ignored. If they refuse to respond adequately, that could be grounds for excluding them in that category. And if at a later date they…[Read more]

To Edj.If a person says “I do not know” or “my answer is this…(inadequate)”, then at least they have shown where they stand and that is acceptable. It is those who dodge good questions in order to preserve their ability to continue posting something they either do not understand or have no legs to stand on.I think it is wise that Scripture and…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 26 2010,07:37)Hi Irene, and only Irene (Georg, too)Yes David is around and I thought about changing my signature to my last name so that we wouldn't be confused and you'd see why I am “fun”.Mr. Bean or could use my degree….Dr. David, but that is pretentious.or I am a retired teacher,,,,how about “The Professor” hahaHere…[Read more]

A great and timely message.Thanks shimmer.To all who happen to read this, please take this seriously.

This post is about Trinitarians that agree that John 1:1c is talking about the Word having the nature or substance of God, rather than the Word actually being identified as God. Their testimonies as well as mine disagree completely with Isaiah's view, (see his first post). He argues that the Word is being identified as God whereas I said that the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,08:51)You still have not explained if Jesus is of Gods kind how he cannot be God.“If Jesus is of God's kind, how can he not be God.”Your above statement (slightly altered for grammatical reasons) is like saying the following:If Eve is of Adam's kind, how can she not be Adam.See the mistake WJ? You have been…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,08:51)You still have not explained if Jesus is of Gods kind how he cannot be God.“If Jesus is of God's kind, how can he not be God.”Your above statement (slightly altered for grammatical reasons) is like saying the following:If Eve is of Adam's kind, how can she not be Adam.See the mistake WJ? You have been…[Read more]