Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 15 2010,15:33)T8 and Mike ………..Why don't you both just join the TrinitariansNo. That would be silly.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 15 2010,15:33)T8 and Martian………..It is also written the GOD created everything by (himself) and (alone). But you both chose to ignore it right?Actually Gene, who is ignoring it?If God made all things, then it was him and no one else that made all things. If God made all things THROUGH Jesus, then it was still God…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 15 2010,05:01)All the debates center on proving that Christ pre-existed, I want to know what purpose it serves. Did God do it so that we would have something to debate? How does this doctrine work?  What does it do for the believer? How does it help me along the journey to become like Christ?What kind of fruit does it…[Read more]

Martian, I think most are already aware of what you are saying here and probably agree with most of it.But I personally do not take these scriptures as the foundation of Jesus existence before he emptied himself. Without turning this topic into a duplicate of the Pre-existence thread, I would like to say that your post above does nothing to…[Read more]

So where do polls go if they have their own forum.In the Feedback, Help, Rules, Chat … area?

No it can't. But I could move them to a poll forum and leave it in the original forum too, except that when you clicked it from the original forum, it would take you to the Poll forum.I think that would work quite well, because all polls would be together and in their related forums too.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,01:43)Yea I have heard you say this before as if the Father is the Father of all.Is he the Father of satan or satans children? (Ye are of your father the devil)Come on now WJ. What sort of argument is that. We both know that God is the God of all good and no evil is in him. Sure, these spirits may once have…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,01:43)t8Nice try but the Bible doesn't say we have recieved more than “One Spirit” does it?And as far as us being “One in Spirit” is not the same as being “One Spirit” is it?WJ, yes it was a nice try and there is another one.If we are one in spirit with Jesus and with each other, then it means that we are one…[Read more]

It is interesting to note that the Angel of the LORD is not mentioned at all after Jesus came in the flesh.Is that a clue or a coincidence?

If John 1:1c said, “The Word was THE God”, it would mean that indeed the Word was the God and that would exclude all others. Later we are shown who the Word is and it is Jesus Christ, and now you have just supported the Trinitarians by saying that Jesus is God. Worse than that, it means that Jesus is God to the exclusion of God the…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 14 2010,02:11)Fair enough t8. But on a thread I started about Nick's interpretation of 2 Corinthians 5:19 you said that I made an antichrist statement:Quote KJ, God was in Christ.The alternative is that God wasn't in Christ.And it doesn't say that God is Christ.The first line is right, the second one is antichrist, and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,08:06)ep, anyone that says there is more than “One True God” and worships them is a polytheist, IMO.Yes it is your opinion and I could debate that opinion very easily. But not in this topic.Just realise that we do not worship 3 as God but one as God.And we acknowledge the other usages of theos and elohim in…[Read more]

Quote (gsilva72 @ May 07 2008,10:45)How is Jesus not God? Jesus is not a demi god, but he is God. Hebrews 1:8, Matthew 1:23, John 1:1, 1 Timothy 3:16 all declare that Jesus is God. Also notice that the G in God with these scriptures is not a little g. For us, there is one God the Father.He is the only true God and he sent his son.So Jesus is not…[Read more]

Quote (Brian @ Aug. 14 2010,02:33)Oh, well I couldn't Log-In under Arnold no matter what I did. I tried and I tried, and gotten 8 process #, but never got the Password which I had forgotten. So I just registered. And the new password is the same that I use on a daily basis for Face-Book. Wouldn't forget that….I don't like to be old, the…[Read more]

I noticed you are in Colombia.I lived in Bogota for a while and travelled around Colombia a bit.I liked it there.Are you in Bogota?

The problem here is that a poll can be created from any forum as part of core functionality. But I do have the ability to move polls as I do posts. So they could be created where ever, and I move them to their own forum.What do others think. Are polls better off in their own forum, or in the forum that they are related to by subject?

Quote (seekingtruth @ Aug. 13 2010,03:00)My solution was to take it apart and put it back together Yeah that works. Although I tried to do a cube once, and I just couldn't complete it and it always ended up in a sequence I was unfamiliar with. I then realised someone had taken it apart and not put it back properly.That reminds me of a card game I…[Read more]

Fair enough Roo, but it would be nice if you guys didn't resort to names and labels that we do not identify with. You can challenge what we teach by all means, but calling us Arians means that we follow Arius and if he taught that Jesus was a creature that started life 2000 years ago, and had no divine existence previous to emptying himself, (as…[Read more]

Quote (Brian @ Aug. 13 2010,19:18)however does a Messenger have to be an Angel?Hi Irene. Like your new name.Messenger and Angel are the same word ang'-el-os. There is no distinction as such. It is translators who use the same word to mean 'angel' for heavenly messenger and 'messenger' for earthly messenger.

In fact just to prove my point further (Lightenup), the following scripture says that the thorn in the side of Paul was an angel/messenger/ang'-el-os of Satan.2 Corinthians 12:7-97 To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three…[Read more]