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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,21:32)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 08 2010,21:30)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,21:25)How could you photograph any dimensions?Glad you asked. The answer is the same if you try to photograph God. He made the universe and he can exist in all it's dimensions by his spirit. Spirit is also invisible. Need I go on?I think your platitude average…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,21:25)t8Quote If you use finite instruments you get finite results.What does that mean?I will make it simple for you.Photograph 3 apples.Now photograph all the apples in the world in one photo.When you have done that, come back and we can talk about how we might be able to photograph an eternal God using a 35mm camera.Good luck.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,21:25)How could you photograph any dimensions?Glad you asked. The answer is the same if you try to photograph God. He made the universe and he can exist in all it's dimensions by his spirit. Spirit is also invisible. Need I go on?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Stu, I don't know why you keep coming here. After all, according to you, you only get pointless platitudes. Do you have an affinity for pointless platitudes?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,21:15)I don't see why I shouldn't ask for a photograph!  Can you explain convincingly why that would not be a reasonable request, without giving the kind of pointless platitudes that t8 gave?StuartYou shouldn't ask if you claim to be agnostic.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Google images. Probably photo-shopped, but don't know.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,21:15)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2010,20:35)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,19:42)JustAskinYou would think there would be ONE piece of unambiguous evidence to support this statement, wouldn’t you.  But there isn’t.  What is more, you just carry on with the broken record without addressing the variety of relevant points I have made…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,19:13)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 08 2010,07:52)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 06 2010,16:34)So, for the crowds, I will repeat my answer: I am agnostic, as we all must be.  I make the provisional conclusion that, given the complete lack of unambiguous evidence for gods, no such thing exists.  I will be swayed by unambiguous evidence.  Do you ha…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,19:42)How petulant and small-minded would you have to be to take that sort of revenge just because someone ignored your paranoid orders?You could be explaining yourself here.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    If you had a photo of God it would be fake.You cannot photograph an eternal spirit.We can't even photograph all the atoms in the human race, never mind a spirit that can exist in all things and even beyond that.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Hey nice post JA.After reading the marquee, it made the rest of the text look like it was going the other way.All about perspective isn't it.And God's perspective is the only true perspective.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 07 2010,16:52)You mentioned this god thing, so you decided it was important. I asked you what it is you are talking about, and now it appears I was right: you do not have any better an answer than a list of religious platitudes. Five of them, to be precise.StuartSorry Stu you are wrong again on this one.It is against the rules…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 07 2010,16:53)Sorry, was there a reason for the impossibility of Hawking's statement anywhere in there? You are just saying you think it is not possible. I can just as easily say you are wrong, it is perfectly possible.StuartIf he is saying that something came from nothing, then yes that is impossible.If he is saying that…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 06 2010,16:34)So, for the crowds, I will repeat my answer: I am agnostic, as we all must be.  I make the provisional conclusion that, given the complete lack of unambiguous evidence for gods, no such thing exists.  I will be swayed by unambiguous evidence.  Do you have any?Great stuff Stu. You are taking honesty more seriously no…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2010,00:10)You can't prove a negative,So anti-baryons, antiproton, antihydrogen, and anti-matter can't be proven.

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    Quote (martian @ Sep. 06 2010,02:40)Yep. You are right Gene. Most non-catholic Pre-existers want to deny the origin of their beliefs in Catholicism and constantine doctrine.Catholics have to teach the pre-existence because without the pre-existence of Christ the whole trinitarian doctrine falls apart.All you are doing is saying that Christ…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 04 2010,08:36)T8………..So you reason “ours is not to reason why , ours is but to do or die” right? The “FAITH” of the Blind, So why don't you follow the Catholic Trinitarian teachings then after all they were the first to teach the Trinity and Preexistence doctrines. No one else taught them. IMOYou appear to be…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 06 2010,16:36)You have not disproved Hawking, all you have done is insisted it is impossible. Actually why is it impossible?StuartI have pointed out correctly that there must exist something else if nothing became something. Otherwise there would be nothing now. It is this that neither you or Hawking can disprove. Hawking's…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 06 2010,16:32)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 06 2010,11:15)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 05 2010,13:48)What god was that again?StuartMore smoke from Stu.You still don't appear to be able to answer the question.  What is a god?  What god do you mean?Can you answer without resorting to fantasy descriptions and platitudes? StuartStuart, that is changing t…[Read more]

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    Quote (princess of the king @ Sep. 06 2010,14:16)*Quote Actually it is more directed at those who use words like  'Anathema', 'AdHominem', and 'Ontological'. Actually, it is directed to ridicule others, hands down. A thought just occurred to me, is this how ones on heaven net speak about each other through their pm/s. So does this show that big…[Read more]

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