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    OK, so gravity is eternal and can exert itself on nothing and walla, a universe, banana, and a conscious race of humans.This pretty much sums up this belief and as you can see, it too is a religious explanation.We can call it the Gravity God religion. Gravity is God. Gravity came up with a universe full of patterns and fractal design, it invented…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 30 2010,06:30)We are African apesYou are also a daffodil if you consider yourself an ape. You have much common code with daffodils and in fact all living things.I am a New Zealand human, and you are free to identify yourself as an African Ape. You are also free to identify yourself as a horse as according to your belief, you are…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 29 2010,17:05)I was able to read the words literally for myself, but nonetheless thanks for that.Usually when you reply to a post saying “I sometimes think christians don't realise that the things they say which appear deep to them read like complete nonsense to others.” it means that it is non-sensible to you. I simply spelled…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 29 2010,16:54)In the beginning was not matter.Actually in John 1:1 (In the beginning was the Word) is not a reference to say that the Word is the original God but that the Word was present at the beginning of creation. The next verse says that the Word was WITH God.I simply substituted God with the Gravity God and that left…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 28 2010,18:56)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2010,11:24)stuso we both have a god in which we believe ,that is my point,like i say what is or who he is as no bearing on that we have one,just like if we holding both a glass of beer,the kind of beer as no bearing on the fact that we have a beer,so we are what we believe no??PierreI…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 28 2010,21:26)Just because a prophet is doing something unusual that in no way dismisses their prophethood.What about when they deny that God has a son?Bible1 John 5:20, 21And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Debating bodhitharta in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years ago

    I can explain how a cake is made and make no mention of the person who baked it. So what?

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    Quote (david @ Oct. 28 2010,14:01)OK, I was watching this show, and apparently, astronomers can see 13 billion light years away.  (That's as far as we can see right now.)  And, it actually took a while to get that image.And since light took that long to reach us, what we actually see when we look that far, is galaxies in their infancy, not s…[Read more]

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    I will interpret Stu.Your existence is on a sand pebble and your future pretty much runs out when you die.I think that is what he was saying to you.You would agree with that of course as it lines up with what you believe and it looks like we agree. You believe you will die and it is game over and that your little corner of the world is a…[Read more]

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    OK. So it must be a style that renders new posts as new, but instead renders all 'new' words as red.Weird.

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    OK, this explanation from Prophet Hawking is what you believe. Will comment when I am in a better space.Quote THE ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSEWhen the universe was a single point, like the North Pole, it contained nothing. Yet there are now at least ten-to-the-eightieth particles in the part of the universe that we can observe. Where did all these…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 20 2010,16:49)You are not all ears, or you would have heard the last three times I explained it to you.What is the listening equivalent of turning over the broken LP? I think you should try doing that.I have yet to read your explanation on how this happens or a decision that it is not possible.Just reply to this post with an…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 20 2010,19:33)So, no theory of creation.  No explanation for how humans arise from Imaginary Friends breathing into dirt.  No explanation for why the Judeo-christian book of spells claims that you can have the earth before light exists.Oh, I have plenty of ideas and theories here. But I need to explain to you that you need a b…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Oct. 20 2010,19:15)Your analogy commits the logical fallacy of begging the question.StuartNothing wrong with begging a question if it needs to be asked.e.g., if you don't ask the question “is it safe”, then you might take unnecessary risks.Stu, you can't hide behind technicalities. That is what people do when they have something to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Atheist jokes in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

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    Yeah Kerwin. Why pretend that all those scriptures do not mean what they say?Why pretend that all these scriptures mean the opposite of what they say?Why pretend that the context is wrong?I don't see the point in all that pretending.When I signed up to serve God, I did so with the attitude that I was a disciple of truth and not the master.What…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    Stu, we are all ears. How do you get something from nothing. How does nothing acting on nothing produce something.Please enlighten us.Shall I hold my breath? :D

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    He would say that WHY is irrelevant which is what I did when I myself was in darkness. I was an Atheist and I thought that WHY was irrelevant. Why ask WHY? Although that is a WHY question.I gave Stu the analogy of a cake. Science can explain that it contains flour, baking powder, egg, and sugar, and it was heated for 45 minutes at a certain…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Prophet Hawking in the forum Creation & Science 16 years ago

    OK, Stu, I can see you are having problems again.I will try and come up with a strategy that might help.Would simpler terms be easier to comprehend? How can I help you see that nothing is not an option as being the initiator of all things. Most people if they are honest get that, but I am not sure what the block is.Do you have problems…[Read more]

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    BTW Stu. You don't need to quote a post if you are replying to the last post. It actually makes the conversation harder to follow when people quote all the time.

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