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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    I see where you are coming from Gene.Instead of believing that people can choose freely and are therefore responsible for what they believe, you prefer to believe that the greater influence will always win.This explains why you repeatedly teach that Jesus Christ is a man who was created 2000 years ago instead of the Logos that was with God who was…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Nov. 03 2010,19:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2010,14:44)Maybe there is something to it                                              Ed is lucifer=111                                        Receive a mark=111                                          Mark of beast=111                                                Witchcraft=111  …[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    Is this topic still being debated.Gene. Your doctrine makes it silly to even argue against people who believe in free will because according to your doctrine, they are not freely choosing to do so. So do you believe your own doctrine? If so, why do you persist in trying to convince people to your way of thinking if you do not believe that they can…[Read more]

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    I don't have a problem with any of these points. I have a problem with later creeds and the enforcement of them.

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    Colossians 1:17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.Jude 1:25to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.1 Corinthians 11:3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the…[Read more]

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    Nice topic. It is good to show just how many scriptures teach about Jesus origins.When you see the sheer number of them, then it shows how hard it is to debunk them all.You can always argue against a few, but trying to debunk all those scriptures, screams out that something is wrong.

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    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 14 2010,07:27)What cause? Why is a cause necessary?If there was no cause, then it all came from nothing. That is silly. If there was nothing, there would be nothing now.Explain how nothing can do anything?

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    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Nov. 04 2010,10:02)Testimony? Is that the extent of your evidence? If so, you should really change the title of this thread to “Atheists pose no threat to my subjective experiences!”.I don't know if you know this, but there are people who come to this forum all the time with testimonies, and they all radically differ on…[Read more]

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    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Nov. 04 2010,10:02)Here is a simple question:Can you prove that fairies do not exist?  Yes or no?(If you answer “Yes”, please summarize your case.)There is very good and plentiful evidence that there is a creator. There is no evidence or reason for fairies existence.They are not in the same ball park.It is similar to saying…[Read more]

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    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Nov. 04 2010,10:02)I did not think that I would have to spell this out for you, but you have already conceded that “all positions ludicrous” and further that “the truth has to be ludicrous because it will be so far removed from our everyday experience of life”. Yet, you ridicule Stu for taking a ludicrous position concerning…[Read more]

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    Atheist arguments are after the first cause. At that stage it is too late to argue for or against God.Therefore they have no evidence at all to the cause.

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    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 03 2010,16:42)How can you be a threat to something that isn't there?This statement proves you are no threat because you ignore all the clues and instead just make statements based on bias. That is not science, nor is it logical, and so we have nothing to worry about. Of course I thought this before debating with you, but time has…[Read more]

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    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Nov. 03 2010,03:24)T8, why don't you start by sharing the evidence to which you refer in the first quote?I wouldn't know where to start and besides, that would never convince Stu because he is not interested in the truth anyway. But if you are really interested, feel free to go to the Testimonies Forum.Stu's only use here is to…[Read more]

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    WhatIsTrue Atheists think they have intellectual evidence that says that God doesn't exist.In my experience they have none.This is not about Christian anything but the existence of God or a creator only.And yes God is ludicrous when you think that there is this someone in the sky as that is how many Atheists see this God.But it has to be said that…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 02 2010,16:14)Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 02 2010,04:48)Hi Stu,Thank you also for your response.It just underlines who and what you are.You couldn't pay me a greater compliment.StuartThe fool has said there is no God.Is that a higher one?

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    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 02 2010,16:18)I recently reposted my original quoting of Hawking, a more eloquent explainer of it than me. Do you not remember? You said you would reply when you had more time.I remember.So let me get this straight. You follow Prophet Hawking and does that mean that you believe that gravity is an eternal force?It has always…[Read more]

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    But the rabbit just appeared out of nothing, or the rabbit is eternal and pops in and out of existence, surely?:laugh:

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2010,02:30)I don't know why T8 deleted my thread it's like now he wants to censor me even in the skeptics section it really doesn't make sense other people have exposed what was in their inbox before even if they didn't make it a seperate thread.It's like T8 only pays what I do any attention you never know ED he might…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 03 2010,00:53)Hi T8,So calling someone the devil is not as bad as BD Posting his PM's?You deleted that entire thread of BD's Posted PM's, but this one is OK?You kicked martian off the form because he was having emotional problems?But premeditated malicious slandering perpetrated by BD is supported by you; T8?Can you not see that…[Read more]

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    Stu if you think it was the law of gravity, then know that all laws have a law giver. All forces have a cause. Using simple logic is enough to understand that a creator is the only viable option. I use the simple process of deduction which leaves one option that explains all things. I have yet to hear your grand theory on how it all came from…[Read more]

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