Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 21 2010,03:16)Today I agree that N.T talks about Jesus' preexistence in different ways. But I am oriented towards Jewish Monotheism and I find preexistence hard to fit in its doctrine. No Jew would agree with Christian ideas of preexistence of Messiah. They don't agree with Christian god-man who came down from heaven in a…[Read more]

Science can? And yet it proves itself wrong time and time again. Measurements are adjusted, facts are changed, new evidence screws up current theories, new ideas are laughed at and then accepted.Yeah Stu, Science knows the difference.Another incorrect post by Stu. Lost count of them now.

The universe demands a creator that is the difference. Similarly, a murder scene demands a murderer? What demands are there for fairies? None.Case closed.But for the sake of opening the case, feel free to forward the compelling evidence.

Quote (Baker @ Nov. 16 2010,07:33)TimYou're wrong, I don't have to fight at all, I know how I can have my sins forgiven, while yours are not, because, you believe you do not sin; that is contrary to scripture. Denying scripture is not what cleanses you from your sins, it is the blood of Christ, he is the one who died in your stead, for your…[Read more]

What are you guys arguing about?

He can't delete your posts or anyones posts. Not even his own.

BTW Stu, your forefathers (unbelievers or scripturally uneducated) were the ones that believed the world was suspended on a tortoise shell. They obviously rejected scripture because scripture contradicted such popular myths.Scripture also talks about hygiene, washing, and cleaning thousands of years before the ancients discovered the benefits of…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 19 2010,16:04)Humans have certainly got a lot wrong in the past, and much of what we think we know is probably wrong today. Big Bang cosmology has a pretty good track record relatively speaking, and Darwin has been right for 150 years.According to your faith. And it wouldn't be the first time that scientists have been wrong. But…[Read more]

Stu you repeat the common fallacy that because men do not know who God is that this some how makes him not exist.That is like saying that detectives who argue over who Jack the Ripper really was, somehow makes him non-existence.As long as you repeat this fallacy, then we can rest easy knowing that this is ultimately what your last word on the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2010,15:59)Yes, praise Jupiter, indeed he is magnificent.StuartYes Jupiter is a magnificent planet. Praise the creator of that planet and all planets.

True. It is analogue and physical technology that degrades.

Well even with free will, you still need to know what the choices are.Once you are drawn or made conscious of the options, you can still say no.

So long as you are happy to be that fool, then at least you have some temporal happiness, even if your conclusions are foolish.Temporal happiness is better than no happiness at all.But reality does has a way of waking people up from their dream world. But carry on dreaming that nothing did nothing and then exploded into everything and rearranged…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2010,18:37)Meantime the evidence for Hawking's eloquent expression of the standard cosmological model stands, undented by anything you have written.Has Hawking gone back to the originator. If so, what is it? Gravity? And is this thing (gravity) someone, something, or nothing.Just give me an option to work with so we can…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2010,18:37)It seems that this “foolishness” is the best model we have for the appearance of the universe, although these days we can't be sure which sense of “nothing” you are using, the abstract or the strawman concrete sense you appear to have invented and expect people to take seriously.Let me debunk this.What else is there…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2010,18:45)It's what the ancients thought and wrote down. You sure believe a lot of primitive stuff t8, except what you have twisted to fit your modern scientific understanding.When the ancients believed the world sat on a tortoise shell, scripture said the Earth floated on nothing. When the ancients said the world was flat,…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 16 2010,20:40)In the sky, isn't it?  Doesn't the alleged “lord god” live in the firmament and open and close the windows to allow rain and hail to escape according to its meterological whims?StuartThe heavens is the universe and the highest heaven is the highest dimension of that creation.Your idea of a sky with windows is…[Read more]

William Shakespeare A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. King DavidThe fool has said in his heart there is no God.

Stu, maybe I should give you the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps this subject is way over your head and you truly cannot understand it?