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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 8 months ago

    Question: If we will be like Jesus and he calls us brothers, then does that support Jesus being the son of God or God?Answer: Son of God.Because if we are to be like God and God calls us brother, then we are too God.But if he is the son, then we are sons, and we will be his brother.Just another clear indicator that Jesus is the son of God and not…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 8 months ago

    Question: If we will be like Jesus and he calls us brothers, then does that support Jesus being the son of God or God?Answer: Son of God.Because if we are to be like God and God calls us brother, then we are too God.But if he is the son, then we are sons, and we will be his brother.Just another clear indicator that Jesus is the son of God and not…[Read more]

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    Question: If we will be like Jesus and he calls us brothers, then does that support Jesus being the son of God or God?Answer: Son of God.Because if we are to be like God and God calls us brother, then we are too God.But if he is the son, then we are sons, and we will be his brother.Just another clear indicator that Jesus is the son of God and not…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 09 2011,08:54)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2011,15:20)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 09 2011,03:16)WAS HE A PUPPET ON A STRING THAT COULD DO NOTHING ON HIS OWN?Not a puppet because puppets are dead.But he definitely did nothing of his own accord.Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by…[Read more]

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    I shouldn't need to define the terms as I have repeated them too many times to count now.But here goes:He existed in the form of God/divine nature, emptied himself, came in the form of man/human nature, humbled himself, died, was resurrected to the glory he had with the Father before the world begun.Now even though I can support this statement…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2011,21:12)Kerwindo not mix the tree and the fruit,our soul is not the flesh it is the spirit you receive from God ,and your hearth are the deepest sentiments you can have .add to those our works in live history and now thats a soul.(spirit of us)those two will combine and make what we are,the flesh being the tent in…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 17 2011,01:38)So what is Jesus by nature t8?Although he existed with divine nature/form of God…Come on WJ. How many times do I have to repeat myself. My 5 year old son asks a lot of questions too, but not the same questions over and over because he learns and moves onto greater things.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 17 2011,01:38)It is you that claims God in reference to Jesus is qualitative.WJ, again. All who are called theos (barring false gods of course) are that in a qualitative sense. Only the Father is that in identity. (The God.) So if Jesus is called theos it will be in that sense and not as the Most High in…[Read more]

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    Yes we all are imperfect.But this idea is to bring accountability. If people do not front up, then it just makes it clearer to others that this person is not backing up what they are teaching. This has been a problem here for quite some time and allowing a forum to tackle it seems good to me.Remember that others can throw in their 2 cents worth…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 16 2011,09:19)Oh, I forgot, you say that satan is excluded because he “does what he wants.”Either that or he does the will of God. If you need help in which one, I will give you a clue.He is the father of lies. Ask someone what father means.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 11 2011,04:17)You still didn't answer the question. Do the scriptures call Jesus God or not?I do not know if Thomas called Jesus, theos or not because there are 2 ways you can interpret that text. Also, the text has to definite articles instead of one. It literally translates as “the lord of me and the god of me”.…[Read more]

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    True Wm.I assume that will happen too.But what will be accomplished is that they will be shown as dodging questions about that which they preach. This will demonstrate clearly that they know that they should provide an answer for all that they believe and teach, and thus their position is weakened substantially because they are unable to give an…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 16 2011,03:51)Of course it isn't the issue with you because to answer the question honestly you have to agree that Jesus is no less in nature than God the Father. You would have to admit that Jesus is in nature everything the Father is which can only mean that he is God.WJ, have you not read where I have posted many…[Read more]

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    Bod, OK, so you admit that Walid is right about those names for Allah.Also, there is a difference between deception and out-plotted or out-planned.In business for example, companies use strategies to compete. They might keep a product hush hush in order for their competition to not get wind of it, Deception on the other-hand is generally frowned…[Read more]

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    Well if he is truly dishonest and Allah is not the proud one or the deceiver (as he says), or if Islam does not honour a god of war and if Islam honours the desire of woman, then you have nothing to worry about. Additionally, if Islam doesn't deny that Jesus is the son of God, then you can go to sleep every night without any nagging doubt in your…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 15 2011,08:51)Then please explain how Jesus who is God qualitatively is less divine in nature than “God”?You can answer your own question by answering this.How are we less divine in nature if we can partake in it?

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    He is the originator of that nature or the prototype. His offspring inherit that nature through him.As far as less or more of that nature is concerned, my answer is that this is not the issue.It makes no difference if we are equal or less in that nature because the issue is that only he is Adam in identity and likewise only the Father is God in…[Read more]

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    That is how you do it, but a further complication has arisen. Google has changed the code and it appears that it is not able to be posted in the forums. However, they still provide the old code. So you just need to click “Use old embed code” and then copy and paste the code.The code will look something like this.<object width=”480″…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 9 months ago

    Bump for WJ.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 9 months ago

    Bump for WJ.

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