Quote (Gene @ Dec. 19 2009,09:01)Irene…..I don't want to change you, believe as you will, but there are more the Me and Kerwin , who do not believe Jesus Preexisted before his berth here, CON, matian, Terriccia, Jodi Lee, Mandy, Kerwin, myself, and several others. You have yet to produce ONE scripture or explanation for GOD to have used a…[Read more]

gene your not making any sense with your ramblings at all.what is this “a Being Kill Him and rebirth HIM and have him die again.did he die 2 times?? not sure what you mean. i see only one time that the bible says god's son, jesus christ had died. where do you get he died 2 times?there are a lot of scriptures that tell you why and what his ransom…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 17 2009,01:32)To All………the glory Jesus had with the Father was the Glory GOD the FATHER had planned for Him in the beginning of the creation of the world, and this Glory is also given to Us, it is what we had in the beginning of this earths creation also. GOD'S Plan is to bring (Many) Sons unto Glory. Those who believe in…[Read more]

the god of isreal is what the pharoahs and all others new him buy. moses was given commandments for them to live by, and also to teach God's will(law). when jesus came he showed exactly how to do that specifically not just words written down. but he also taught us more!our covenant with christ is a preaching work and is not centered on the10…[Read more]

the covenant is new l. and our way is through jesus. you cannot accept jesus for what the bible tells.your just not wanting to accept christ for all he is and did. thats your problem. trying to twist or imply what the bible says, is also your problem.it first was all about following the ten commandments as to if you were doing god's will. however…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2009,08:42)To all,It sure sounds like some individuals here are stating God changes.  I assure you that is not so.  What God wanted of his people yesterday he still wants today.   The prophet Ezekiel tells us that God will forgive those who change their ways and do all that is righteous.  That is true under the old cov…[Read more]

those things done now of the old law are forgivable. we are to follow christs way now. i've said the same thing over.you say falsehoods by man;s own deductions and ideas instead of teh message in the bible

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 14 2009,08:27)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 13 2009,09:23)See what I mean Kerwin, banana is parroting and peace2all is flipflopping again. It's hard to talk to her cause she keeps talking both sides of the fence.so banana shows you scriptures that tell you the truth, that makes them a parrot?you use your own personal…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 13 2009,09:23)See what I mean Kerwin, banana is parroting and peace2all is flipflopping again. It's hard to talk to her cause she keeps talking both sides of the fence.so banana shows you scriptures that tell you the truth, that makes them a parrot?you use your own personal outcomes to scriptures and not god's…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 13 2009,09:23)See what I mean Kerwin, banana is parroting and peace2all is flipflopping again. It's hard to talk to her cause she keeps talking both sides of the fence.what am i flip flopping onthe ten commandments was there guidejesus is our guide.tht does not mean go ahead and sin and do those things against…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2009,03:56)Quote (banana @ Dec. 13 2009,06:32)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2009,20:32)Irene wrote:Quote No body has seen the Father God or heard His voice.Here is a puzzle to think and consult God about.2 Chronicles 18:18-22(NIV) reads:Quote Micaiah continued, “Therefore hear the word of the LORD : I saw the LORD sitting on his…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 13 2009,11:50)Irene……….the term firstborn, is a matter of interpretation, if you are predisposed to believe it literial means ( the first creature ever made) then your logic is right,  But the term first (born) implies a berth process, While what you are implying is first creation process. The term firstborn implies…[Read more]

Quote (banana @ Dec. 14 2009,05:51)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2009,03:56)Quote (banana @ Dec. 13 2009,06:32)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2009,20:32)Irene wrote:Quote No body has seen the Father God or heard His voice.Here is a puzzle to think and consult God about.2 Chronicles 18:18-22(NIV) reads:Quote Micaiah continued, “Therefore hear the word of the…[Read more]

why people go out of their way to force another message out of one thats clear is beyond me.accept the message of the bible only not of your own interpretation & follow christs example. he was the living commandment of god. he should us in felsh how to do what his father wills. his death paved way for our new covenant. in him and through him is…[Read more]

Quote (banana @ Dec. 13 2009,04:00)To all!  We are not under the Old Covenant in Exodus 34:27-28″Then the LORD said to Moses,”Write these words for according to the tenor of these words I have made a Covenant WITH YOU AND WITH Israel.”VERSE 28 “SO He WAS THERE WITH THE lord FORTY DAYS AND FORTY NIGHTS;HE NEITHER ATE BREAD OR DRANK WATER, and He…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 13 2009,02:36)To All……….logoslogic, kerwin, con , martian, …………all have spoken the truth concerning Jesus' Preexistences. Simple logic would tell you if John meant Jesus in John 1:1, he simply would have written Jesus there. IMO The doctrine of preexistence is Just as bad a the doctrine of the Trinity they go hand…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 12 2009,13:28)Quote (banana @ Dec. 11 2009,18:19)This is what Jesus said a Pharisee was,Mat 23:13   But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.  Mat 23:14   Woe unto you, sc…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 12 2009,21:38)Quote Banana wrote: Let me add my understanding of the subject.  In John 17:5 Jesus tells us that He wants to go back to where He was before. Now if He only was a thought or a plan in God's mind, He went back to that?  Now that makes no sense.He had a glory with the Father before He became a man.“The g…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2009,20:24)peace2all wrote:Quote that what I’m saying.  He was god's son in heaven before his arrival on earth. So to say god's son didn't pre exist is wrong.Jesus is God’s Son because he never sinned even though he was tempted even as we are.  I believe stating he is God’s Son is like stating he is God’s firstborn…[Read more]

are you trying to defend the catholic faith?i hope not.they bless and accept war.the worship the crossthey worship the staue of marythey use “father” as part of acknolwedgement to a religous leader. god said not too.they worship trinity