Hi Ed,

No question that you have the dictionary meaning down pat.

Hi Gene,

And Scripture says the similarity between the new and old body

is comparable to the likeness between a seed and the plant that grows from it.

So not much similarity there.

Hi Ed,

Christ does not specifically mean ANOINTED RULER as you know.

His anointings included KINGSHIP of course.

The ESOTERIC” knowledge”is the basis of gnosticism.

Not proven biblical truth.

Hi,

Gnosticism is of the flesh.

It starts with an idea that seems reasonable.

That idea becomes a certainty and perhaps a scripture can be found that sounds supportive.

Hi Gene,

Unless you can see his body being transformed you will not believe scripture?

Clouds hid him from view. Acts 1.9

Blessed are those who do not see but believe.

Hi Gene,

Not switching subjects but aligning the true meaning of a verse you have misconstrued.

rom 8.6f

For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set n the flesh is hostile to God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not able to do so, and those who are in…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

Eph 4.4

There is ONE BODY and one Spirit…

1Cor 12.12f

For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body are one, so also is Christ…..

Now you are Christ’s body and individually members of it.

The BODY of Christ

Hi Gene,

God described His creation as VERY GOOD.

But you change this to PERFECT to support your dogma.

Raise your eyes above flesh.

Hi Gene,

Rom 8.23

And not only this, but we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons,

the redemption of OUR BODY.

Not bodies.

THE BODY OF CHRIST.

Hi,

All this confusion because folks do not realise The Spirit spoke through the man Jesus Christ.

Like the pharisees they attribute the words just to a man.

Hi,

To fit with the teaching that Jesus was a preexistent Spiritual being

tradition

has to deny that Jesus was conceived in Mary, born under the Law

deny that he was a ordinary man like you and me

and deny his anointing at the Jordan.

full house

Hi Ed,

Tradition tells you that the Jordan was not his anointing.

As a faithful Jew he submitted to the baptism of John.(Lk 7.29-30)

Then he was filled with the Spirit.(lk4.1)

Hi Ed,

What is your problem?

The messiah was born in Bethlehem.

He was anointed at about age 30 at the Jordan River.

Hi,

Prophets too were anointed and Jesus Christ is the Great Prophet spoken of by Moses.

So CHRIST means the messiah or anointed one.

It does not specify rulership.

Hi Ed,

???

Focus

Hi Ed,

Yes kings and priests were anointed and Jesus Christ is Lord and High Priest.

But that does not define CHRIST as anointed ruler.

Be more accurate.

Hi Ed,

If your use of scripture and the definitions thereof are so sloppy

why should we take any notice of your conclusions?

Hi ED,

You say Christ means ANOINTED RULER.

Where is RULER in the definition?

Hi Gene,

Scripture cannot convince you.

Why should we try?

Hi Ed,

More?

Yes please as you have given us nothing relevant yet.

Do you think Herod wanted to kill the Spirit of Christ?