NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
The god of this world is man’s belly you say.
No the apostle spoke of some men in this way.
But you have taken it on yourself to generalise?
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
The accuser of the brethren is allowed by God to test these who would be sons of God to develop their faith.
As with Peter who Satan demanded to be able to rest.
The whole world is under the power of the evil one.
2 Tim 2.24
The lord’s bondservant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, w…[Read more]
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
I know you can live with removing a lot of the Old Testament and many of the teachings of Jesus Christ
to satisfy your dogma but eventually you will meet the one whose teachings you ascribe to superstition.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Mk 8.31
And he began to teach them that the son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders
and the chief priests and the scribes,and be killed, and after three days rise again. And he stated the matter
plainly, and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. But turning around and seeing his disciples,
he rebuked…[Read more]
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
What else is FICTIONAL in scripture?
If you cannot believe this what else should we not believe?
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You clearly admire your teachings and claim they are faithful to scripture.
But you exclude what does not fit with your ideology.
Whom do you serve?
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Does the parable in Lk 16 challenge your view of God and His justice?
Should you makes a god according to your personal view?
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
So the teaching of the Spirit in Lk 16 is FICTIONAL?
Is there no truth shown in the other parables given by THE SPIRIT either?
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Jesus had to do more of this work with the brothers.
Lk 9.53.
But they did not receive him because he was travelling towards Jerusalem.
When the disciples James and John, saw this they said,
’Lord, Do you want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them? ‘
But he turned and rebuked them, and said,
’You do not kn…[Read more]
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Jesus spoke to Peter, because the Satan was in Peter.
The master does not address his brothers in derogatory terms.
Nether does he let the god of this world continue his little manipulations of the truth.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
The whole world is under the power of the evil one.
Thise who do not accept a God as their Father have another father.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
Yes we know you have your strong opinions about many of these things and even tell us spirits are intellects.
But you should return to the revealed truth as your basis of understanding.
Get behind me satan is not addressed to a man.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Jn 7.32
Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying,
’If anyone is thirsty let him come to me and drink. he who believes in me,
as the scripture said.
“From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water”
But this he spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to recei…[Read more]
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
Those who sleep in death already have the Spirit of eternal life abiding in them.
The Spirit resurrects them just as the Master was raised.
Then they go up to meet him in the air.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
Lazarus died.
Lazarus was asleep.
Both these statements by the Teacher are true.
Until you understand how those who are in Christ only sleep in death we make no progress.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
Was Peter Satan?
You must have missed my reply.
You must scripture as it is written first as you say.
No . Jesus was addressing the satan that spoke through the man Peter.
The vessels all must be cleansed to be useful in the large house of the Master.2 Tim 2
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Your problem seems to be that your preconceptions cannot accommodate the teaching from the Spirit in Lk 16 .
Something has to give.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You are telling Jesus that his teachings about Hades in Lk 16 were deceptive lies?
Surely you would not challenge the Spirit that spoke through him?
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
THIS DAY can just put the timing within 1000years.
Jesus was declared to a few people to be the son of God at the Jordan and at other times.
But the proof of his sonship was his resurrection.
NickHassan replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Jodi,
So your theories all hang on the word AGAIN which does not appear in many translations.
Correct?
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