Well, I’m in over my head.  I just meant to make a simple post, but now I’m answering too many questions at once and I really want to move on with my life.  This is an interesting topic and I have a lot to say on it, but I seriously have other things to do.  I’ll try to answer later on, so be patient.

@kerwin

I know that, and I’m glad you either took the time to look it up, or possibly you already knew it.  Now, my point is this: what makes you right and me wrong?  Or what makes me right and you wrong?  The way it’s written, it could be either way.  Therefore, it’s probably not logical to assume that you’re right when you give your int…[Read more]

@NickHassan

You say that we must treat the Bible with the greatest respect, yet you don’t tell me where I can find anything that you’re telling me within it.  You’re just saying things.  You say “No men are divine but all are vessels in which The divine can live and work”, so show me where it says that in the Bible.  Back up what you’re saying wi…[Read more]

You say that we must treat the Bible with the greatest respect, yet you don’t tell me where I can find anything that you’re telling me within it.  You’re just saying things.  You say “No men are divine but all are vessels in which The divine can live and work”, so show me where it says that in the Bible.  Back up what you’re saying with re…[Read more]

oops. double post

@kerwin

Except the next few verses, even in the Greek, refer to the LOGOS of verse 1 as “he” and “him”.  So it seems that John had a person in mind.

@kerwin

Except the next few verses, even in the Greek, refer to the Word of verse 1 as “he” and “him”.  So it seems that John had a person in mind.

@NickHassan

Why the 3 posts?  You asked several complicated questions at one time, as if I should spend my whole night researching and answering all your questions.  Therefore, I will just give you quick answers.

As far as Jesus’s pre-existence, the Bible is a bit fuzzy on this.  The synoptic  gospels seem to indicate that Jesus had a fai…[Read more]

Well yes, Jesus was anointed by God, just as David was anointed as king over Israel.  In the Old Testament, the Hebrew word MShYKh (Messiah) was applied to King David.  And of course KrISTOS (Christ) is the Greek word that means the same thing.  So Jesus is Christ just as David was Christ.

Of course there are differences between the two.  For…[Read more]

Oh, and as a side note:

It says that Jesus was in the form of God.  Colossians 1:15 says that Jesus is the image of the invisible God, and Genesis 1:27 says that man (especially Adam) was created in his image.  In I Corinthians 15, Paul refers to Jesus as “the second Adam”.  I think Jesus is as much a part of God as Adam was.

“He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh….”

Some interesting things I discovered while looking at that passage in Philippians 2 over the years:

In verse 6, the Greek reads EN MORFEy ThEOU; and in verse 7 we see MORFEyN DOUDOU LABOhN.  That part in verse 7 is often translated, “taking the form of a slave”, but since…

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It looks like there isn’t much of a debate here.  Kinda disappointed.  So far, we all seem to be in agreement that Jesus was not Almighty God in the flesh, as much of mainstream “Christianity” teaches.

By using the term “active living force”, I pretty much meant the same thing as you then said, but you said it better: the manifestation of God in his creation.

I do want to point out that the Greek words translated “holy spirit” are neuter.  This means that it’s not a “person” of some kind of trinity.  It isn’t quite an “it” either, since it is a…[Read more]

Nick and Kerwin,

Okay, so it seems to me that you’re both on the same page.

Yes GOD WAS IN CHRIST reconciling the world to Himself.

So Christ was not God.

God was not Christ.

That is what’s called the holy spirit, God’s active living force that is channeled through his servants.  Jesus used it to raise Lazarus, Elijah used it to raise the…[Read more]

I apologize for taking so long to come here.  I keep myself quite busy throughout the day, and honestly I forgot about this until just now.

I would first like to point out that Jesus’ divinity is something that has been debated since before the Catholic Church had been established.  That being said, I doubt we would change too many minds here.  …[Read more]

@t8,

I will gladly help you out.  It’s presently 11:20PM where I am, and I have work in the morning, but I will jump into this as soon as I can.  =)

t8,

I will gladly help you out.  It’s presently 11:20PM where I am, and I have work in the morning, but I will jump into this as soon as I can.  =)