Hi D,Right after you address MY post about death at one time having mastery over God Almighty.mike

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,20:25)God is a God spirit being…angels are angel spirit beings…the Son of God is a God spirit being.  One God spirit being begat another God spirit being.  One God spirit being did not begat Himself but another God spirit being.Two points:1.  Then Satan must ALSO be a “God Spirit Being” right?  Because Jeh…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 13 2011,08:47)Marty!  You are nit picking.He's also back-peddling, Irene.He already said that “firstborn of all creation” means that Jesus is the one born first of the “NEW creation”.He has shown that he UNDERSTANDS the word “firstborn” as meaning “the one born first” of whatever particular group is mentioned.Kerwin has also…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2011,05:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2011,06:15)Bump for Marty……………and also for Kerwin.Quote (942767 @ Aug. 04 2011,09:59)Quote And since Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of this “new creation of God”, do those words mean that Jesus was the FIRST CREATURE EVER to be a part of this “new creation of God”?  YES or NO?Yes…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2011,00:33)Neither one of these scriptures has context inferring what the title “root” means.Okay Kerwin.  If you must go as far as pretending that you don't know what “root” means, I have gone as far as I can go with you.Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2011,00:33)In conclusion Jesus is before Abraham because Abraham believes in h…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 13 2011,08:56)“To which of the angels did “HE EVER SAY”, 'You are my Son'…?”The scripture doesn't say “To which of the angels did he ever say you are my Begotten son”, does it Mike?Actually it does, Keith.The WHOLE thought is:  Hebrews 1:5For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have be…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Aug. 13 2011,04:16)Mike: Quote My comment is if you believe Jesus is not a human being then you have thrown him out and are attempting to have the Father without the Son. Anyone who reads scripture should be very aware that Jesus being like his brother human beings is important to the message of salvation as Scripture instructs…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 11 2011,15:25)Most men have it correct because the scripture states that there is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ JesusHe is a mediator between God and men as the High Priest in heaven, and that settles the issue as to whether or not he is still a man.Actually Marty, “most men” have it wrong, for they seem to…[Read more]

Bump for JackQuote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 11 2011,09:43)btw, the word “giants” in the KJV is pagan. The word “nephilim” simply means “renowned.”Yet, the LXX also has “giants”.  Hmmm………………..

Bump for JackarooQuote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 11 2011,03:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2011,12:48)Jack,Who were the sons of God that shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the earth?Some translations simply say “mighty ones.” Angels do not marry human women and beget offspring. KJReally Jack?  Is that your answer?  What does the H…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 13 2011,01:42)The scripture says, “To which of the angels did He ever say, 'You are my Son'…?”This is the essence of your resistance to the plain fact that the the sons of God in Genesis 6 were not angels.Why don't you finish the scripture, Jack?  Many are “sons of God”.  Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN son of God.  And TH…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 12 2011,14:05)After the fall God distinguished between the godly and the pagan lines. Seth's line was the godly and Cain's line was the pagan. Seth's sons (the sons of God) corrupted themselves by marrying into the pagan line of Cain. This threatened the coming of Christ for He could come only through the pure line. So…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 12 2011,10:32)Irene said:Quote Kathi!   I didn't say that it was written Lord, but LORD in all capital letters..For the most high God, Jehovah…and Lord for Jesus mostly in the New Testament…. I have already shown you that David addressed the “LORD” calling him the Creator (Psalm 102). The Father applied this to His…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 12 2011,09:45)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2011,10:10)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 11 2011,20:25)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 11 2011,14:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,12:35)Irene,What is a half trinity?? Kathi!  Look at what you believe???  You say Jehovah God is both Jesus and Almighty God, so Keith and Jack both agree with y…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,20:36)Mike,Does Luke 4:8 speak about worshiping 'Jehovah your God' or the Lord (adonai) your God?  What was written that is being referred to, Jehovah or adonai?There is only one Lord for us, is what Paul tells us.KathiWell, actually both Kathi.Jesus is recorded as saying “kurios/adonai”, but he is directly quoting…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2011,09:03)But what you are asking us to believe is that Jesus was NOT as SEED after OUR HUMAN KIND but a KIND that existed outside of HUMAN KIND.  So it become incumbent upon you to explain to us HOW that WORKS MIKE. Hi Gene,I am truly enjoying this discussion.  Do you remember John the Baptizer saying, “I tell y…[Read more]

Thank you for that insight, Paladin. I, for one, had never made that connection. It seems that, just like the Israelites with the brass serpent, many today want to take the “savior” that God GAVE and make it into God Himself. But are you saying that Christians must PHYSICALLY come to where the cross was in order to be saved?Sincerely,mike

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,14:51)Pierre,Jesus's Father is not the Lord of lords, Jesus is and therefore Jehovah is.  The Father is the God of gods.  Jesus doesn't call the Father His Lord.  He calls Him His God but doesn't call Him His Lord.  Not from what I am aware of, anyway.Luke 4:8Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your Go…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2011,14:14)why is it that trinity guys are always standing away from scriptures ?Hi Pierre,The ultimate reason is always the same:  They want desperately for Jesus to be God Almighty when the scriptures don't ever teach this; and so they must stray away from what the scriptures teach to justify their own flawed,…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 11 2011,09:43)btw, the word “giants” in the KJV is pagan. The word “nephilim” simply means “renowned.”Yet, the LXX also has “giants”. Hmmm………………..