Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 17 2011,00:14)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Tell me what part of that says Jesus must STILL BE a man in heaven right now? Quote ,the man Christ Jesus, Hi Kerwin,Who is the mediator between men and God, Kerwin? Is it not the man who at one time laid down his life for us?For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men: Christ…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 17 2011,00:14)MikeIt is true that I am convinced your conclusions about Galatians 1:1 and 12 are based on the traditions of man and not on Christ. I am convinced of this because your words do not acknowledge that when a human being speaks the word of God it is not their word but they are instead being carried along by the…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 17 2011,15:31)Quote And when you read this……………..Ephesians 6:5Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;………….don't you think it distinguishes our FLESH masters from Jesus Christ, who is apparently NOT a…[Read more]

Thanks for your interest t8. I will do just that when I get the time. And I hope you will join in with your thoughts on the matter.

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 16 2011,21:38)things with me will not go your wayso deuce,Take care of yourself.

Hey Keith,Your long post that starts out asking if demons are sons of God……………….what thread did that come from?And the next long post to which I've just responded……………….what thread did THAT one come from?After my last post, I went back to see just how we did end up on “angels” and “sons of God” in this thread.  And it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2011,09:55) What OTHER “sons of God” would have been present when God laid the foundations of the earth?  And why do you think the LXX has translated “sons of God” as “angels” in Job 38:7?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2011,11:01)But the “angels” being called “sons of God” is an idiom and a poetic way of describi…[Read more]

Hi D,First of all, I don't really want to discuss the totally retarded belief that the Son IS the Father at all, and by no means do I consider such a discussion as “important”.Even the Trinitarians, as comically flawed as their doctrine is, laugh their butts off at you and Paul Cohen's asinine claim.I have already offered you the only deal I'm…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,Now take all of the scriptures that say “besides me”, and translate them the same as the ones that say “apart from me”.I agree 100% that APART FROM JEHOVAH, there IS no god.  Just like I agree 100% that APART FROM JEHOVAH, there IS no savior.Yet, we know that Jehovah Himself SENT OTHER SAVIORS, right?  But APART FROM HIM, there could be n…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 16 2011,09:06)Hi Mike:1 Timothy 2:5 can only be taken “one way” and that is that there is one God and ond mediator between God and men, the man, Christ Jesus.Sorry Marty,You are simply wrong, as Galatians 1:1 and 1:12 CLEARLY show you.  But let me hear your answer to what I've just asked Kerwin:When you read…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 15 2011,23:30)What context do you use to come to the belief the secound Adam is Jesus?Are you asserting that the last Adam does NOT refer to Jesus Christ? If so, why?Also, you didn't really address my points.Kerwin, if a human being BECOMES a spirit being, is he still a human being?

Quote (ftk @ Aug. 15 2011,04:42)Mike: I don't know how you describe a “Man”!Read the OP of the thread, Tim.

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 15 2011,23:31)What you believe is there, is not.   What is there is that God is describing the one mediator between God and mankind by calling him a man who has laid down his life for the ransom of all mankind.Hi Kerwin,You say that what I believe is NOT there, but then go on to state the facts exactly like I've been saying.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 15 2011,22:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2011,22:32)Gene, You are correct.  The word is “ascended”, not “returned”.You could have pointed out my error in a less facetious way however.Mike I would like gene to answer my question ,because if Christ came down from heaven then it is ok to say return or ascend because to me…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 16 2011,18:33)again answer my questions that you are diverting fromAgain, when you explain to me your OBVIOUSLY incorrect answer to the ONLY question I asked of you.In the post where you explain your flawed “YES” answer, feel free to re-post ONE of the questions you want me to answer.That's the ONLY deal you're getting…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2011,18:45)There are no other legitimate gods/Gods than the compound unity called Jehovah.Now if there was only an actual SCRIPTURE that supported EITHER of the two fantasies you just mentioned……………..  Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2011,18:45)Before Me there was no God formed, And after Me there is none.Isaiah…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2011,09:08)Many here deny that Jehovah, our creator is both God AND Lord, two persons, even though they say that Jesus is the Son and Christ, they do not know that He is the Lord Almighty and so deny who He is as the Son.Many here believe the scriptures, and form our understanding around them.  And since there is not…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2011,08:12)Do you understand his answer when he said “I do not believe”Yes Keith.  I understood immediately that he was saying:I don't BELIEVE or THINK it, but I KNOW it…………….Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2011,08:12)So I would expect as a moderator that you would have seen his answer and would…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,23:07)Mike,Many can be called gods because someone or something is being worshiped.  That is not by God's design, he is against this.Really Kathi?Then why is His VERY FIRST commandment to not place any of the OTHER gods before Him?And why does Jehovah Himself call Satan “the god of Ekron”?  (2 Kings 1:3, 6, 16)Why d…[Read more]

Okay D-Linquent,I'm ready for you now.  Would you please expand on your “YES, death DID at one time have mastery over God Almighty Himself” answer?And in your explanation post, please re-post ONE of those questions you keep harping about…………..and I will then answer IT.peace,mike