Thanks Gene.  It only happens when either Carmel or Adam post.  That leads me to wonder if Adam, Carmel, and jammin are all the same person.  What a trip that would be, huh?

Could you imagine Adam and Carmel being the same person?  I sure hope not, since that would be a very deceitful thing to do to the rest of us.

Hi Miia,

The mark of the beast will involve a willful and knowing act of bowing down before an image and worshiping the beast as your master in order to be able to work and buy food for you and your family.  Those who refuse will be killed or starved to death.

The point is that it won’t be a “trick”.  It can’t be 5G, or a certain cell phone, o…[Read more]

Is it just me, or does anybody else get a notification that “jammin” has responded to you any time either Adam or Carmel post something here?

You guys remember jammin from the old days, right?

Adam, are you the person who used to post here as “jammin”?

Carmel, are you the person who used to post here as “jammin”?

Adam, I reject your Islam scapegoat, because you have the same problem with that religion.  It didn’t just appear out of nowhere, right?  So you either have to accept that there was a man named Mohammed or not.  You have to either accept that he was a prophet of God or not.  You have to either accept that people just made this prophet up and att…[Read more]

Adam, you’re deflecting – which tells me you have no leg to stand on here.

Either Jesus was real and told people lies that they believed, or people made up stuff about someone named Jesus (who was either real or a fictional character) and wrote that stuff down.

It has to be one or the other, right?  So let’s take John for example, since he’s…[Read more]

Danny:  There are many sons of God, I agree, but
Jesus Christ is the Only Begotten Son of God (John 3:16; 1 John 4:9)

1 John 5:1… Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been begotten of God…

Okay, so now we know that Jesus is NOT literally the only begotten son of God, right?  These are the questions I asked…

1.  Danny, are th…[Read more]

I listed some things that would have had to happen for billions of people to believe that Jesus was the messiah prophesied about in the OT.  Among them…

1.  Jesus lied and said he was someone he was not.

2.  A bunch of other people joined him in his intent to deceive God’s chosen people.

3.  Hundreds or thousands of others helped the decep…[Read more]

Berean:  FOR IN HIM DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD(ATTRIBUTS OF GOD) BODILY. (COLOSSIANS 2:9) 

Col 2:9… For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily…

Agreed.

Berean:  AND HE IS BEFORE ALL THINGS, AND BY HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST.  (COLOSSIANS 1:17) 

Col 1:17… He himself is before all things, and in him all things hold togeth…[Read more]

Danny:  Well I think are not literal sons in the sense that they are not begotten.

1 John 5:1… Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been begotten of God…

Danny, are those who believe Jesus is the Christ literal sons of God because they are begotten of God?

Are those who are begotten of God not creations of God because they…[Read more]

Berean: Mike

The ONLY BEGOTTEN Son OF God

WAS BEGOTTEN OF THE SUBSTANCE

OF GOD ( DIVINE AND ETERNAL SUBSTANCE OF GOD)

Please show me the bolded part in scripture.  If if you cannot, then please don’t add to the scriptures.

LU: Hi Danny

I believe the Son is the only begotten literal son of God. I have been saying that for 28+ years. Jesus is begotten, not created. A created son would not be a literal son.   

Danny:  Yes. I believe that too.

Berean: Angels who have never sinned are created beings and they are LITERAL SONS.

👍👍

Gene:  Mike…..I join your prayer, for Carmel brother. I believe Satan has really been screwing with him.  I call on  the LORD our GOD,  TO REBUCK Satan and cast him away from CARMEL, in the name of Jesus Christ our lord. 

Amen.

Adam:  Hi brother Gene, if Jesus was a prophet like Moses we need not believe in him or know him for getting the eternal life as claimed by the Fourth Gospel in John 17:3.

Hi Adam, you never explained to me how you think the Christian movement came to be if Jesus isn’t the promised messiah.

1.  Jesus lied and said he was someone he was n…[Read more]

Berean:  No Proclaimer, I BELEIVE THAT THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND JESUS HIS BEGOTTEN AND BELOVED SON.

Those things are scriptural.

Berean:  WHAT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE SON HAS ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF HIS FATHER. AND THEREFORE HE HAS IN HIS DIVINITY THE OMNIPOTENCE, THE OMNIPRESENCE, AND THE OMNISCIENCE OF HIS FATHER.

Those thi…[Read more]

Berean: HE IS A BEGOTTEN BEING, THE REFLECTION OF THE GLORY OF THE FATHER AND THE EVEN FOOTPRINT OF HIS PERSON, HE IS EQUAL TO THE FATHER.

One who is begotten is not equal to the one who begat him.  A reflection of the sun is not the sun itself.  A footprint is not the foot that made the impression.

The Bible teaches that Jesus is “the spitting i…[Read more]

LU: I believe the Son is the only begotten literal son of God. I have been saying that for 28+ years. Jesus is begotten, not created. A created son would not be a literal son.

It seems like Berean, Danny, Proclaimer, and I believe that here.

And now all of you know that you were mistaken, since “monogenes son of God” literally means “the only…[Read more]

LU:  All five of my children were born about nine months AFTER they first existed.

It is not birth that causes an offspring to exist, it’s conception. Mike has been through this Biology lesson many times now and should know better.

I don’t disagree with that – and I’m struggling to understand why you think it is important to this dis…[Read more]

LU:  No Mike you are not.

I’m not what?

Proclaimer: Good point. However, the other point here is he is begotten not created.👍

Actually, the point is that we are also begotten of God – just as Jesus is.  And even though John said we are begotten children of God, we were CREATED.

The point that you seem to be missing is that any living thing that was begotten is automatically a new…[Read more]

Proclaimer: True. It is a ridiculous idea to think that Jesus is God because he was begotten by God. You can say he is divine or shares attributes of his Father. But he is not equal to the Father.

“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father…

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