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    Ed, give me an example of ANY "YES or NO" question that cannot be answered with a "YES or NO".Ask me one right now.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,19:56)Ok Mike,Done!Well, it's still just as unscriptural as it was before. But at least it is evolving and changing right along with your doctrine. :D

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,19:38)Our one Jehovah, God the Father does speak to the one Jehovah, God the Son incarnate to sit at His right hand.So our ONE Jehovah God speaks to our ONE Jehovah God?  What you mean to say is that our ONE Jehovah God speaks to YOUR "other" Jehovah God.  Which only shows that YOU ALONE have TWO Jehovah G…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,19:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:26)"Jehovah in the fullest sense"?  ???  Okay.  But you need to change your signature then.  What you say there conflicts with what you say now.  :)Why is that conflicting with my signature.  How should I word my signature to better express this?KathiHi Kathi,You need to chang…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 13 2011,02:05)I agree with you on that point and I also agree that Colossians 1 is not a proof scripture that only all new things were created in, by, and for Jesus.Then here's the assignment for you:  1.  Show a scripture that says any new thing was ever “CREATED” by or through Jesus.2.  Scripturally show how, just because ce…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago

    Kerwin,Your “honest” answers are so peppered with your own additions to the scriptures that they no longer represent “SCRIPTURAL honesty”, but only “Kerwin's honesty”.Most of your answers say something about how I'm not spiritual enough to understand. Or how Paul knew what he was talking about and I don't. As if these kinds of statements somehow…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2011,08:54)this comment is only good for one cent;Well Tim,One penny is still better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, right?  :)Tim, the point of the thread is that Satan would never in a million years have tried to tempt God Himself by bribing Him with the very kingdoms He gave to Satan in the first place.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 14 2011,16:36)I believe that except for the grace of God and the blood of Christ I differ not one whit from my opponents.As in, you have the grace of God and your opponents don't? ???I don't really think that's what you meant, Paladin. I just took this opportunity to show everyone how indignant the phrase, “There but for the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,17:59)Hi Mike,You answer mine and I'll answer yours; deal?The point “I” was making is: that Jesus came in his fathers glory. …do you agree with this?I don't agree with it unless scripture says it, Ed. Does John 1 mention that Jesus came with “the Father's glory”? If not, then to assume so would be reckless. Als…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,17:54)Hi Mike,Consider this…Sure Ed.  Immediately AFTER you DIRECTLY address my point.  Is Psalm 2:7 about Jesus, Ed?  Is the same exact phrase said about the Word of God in Rev 19, Ed?What you are trying to do is DIVERT FROM my point.  I will be happy to discuss your Isaiah scriptures.  But not unless you are goin…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,17:50)Do you assert that Jesus could have been made our high priest without being born?No Ed, I don't.  But that has nothing to do with my SCRIPTURAL point.  My point is that Hebrews 7:28 is NOT speaking of Jesus' beginning, but of his appointment to High Priest……………WAY AFTER HE WAS BORN!  Do you understand th…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,17:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,10:08)I want CLEAR acknowledgement from you that the genitive form of “theos” means “OF God”………..and NOTHING else.  Hi Mike,It can also be translated as God's (the possessive form of God); have you forgotten?God blessEd JYes Ed. But “God's Spirit” and “Spirit OF God” mean…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,17:28)2) Can you point to any that do not?More than you could count. Would you like me to do so?Here's just one:1 Corinthians 2:4My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power,Both of the above bolded words are the Greek word “logos”. Which one of t…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,17:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,10:08)Do you now agree that God is not the only being in existence who has glory?  YES or NO?  Hi Mike,The point “I” was making is: that Jesus came in his fathers glory.   …do you agree with this?God blessEd J Ed, I really NEED you to DIRECTLY answer the question I asked.As far as…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,17:18)Hi Mike,The kings make war with the Lamb in Rev.17:14,then Jesus' Father(The Word) brings the Cavalry to fight back Rev.19:11-21; it's pretty simple really.Ed, Which letters the KJV capitalized and which ones they didn't are of no import, so I won't bother with that trivial point.  But consider this:Revelation 19…[Read more]

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    Hebrews 7 NIV26 Such a high priest meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. 27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered h…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,12:11)I’m surprised that you would count similar wording of these two separate verses as conclusive, when I have shown you that “The Word” fathered both Jesus and us. (See Heb.7:28 and James 1:18, 1Peter 1:23)In John 1:14 it mentions “the glory as of the only begotten of the Father” which is about “The Word” fathe…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 14 2011,12:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2011,13:17)Ed, you didn't address my last post concerning Rev 17 and 19.Hi Mike,I did address it, it was on page #10 in Post #4.I answered your post on page 12, post #3. I'm now asking for a response to THAT post I made. :)

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    Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 14 2011,05:50)No wonder you are so messed up.:)

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2011,20:31)Erasmus omitted them from his first edition; but when a storm of protest arose because the omission seemed to threaten the doctrine of the Trinity, he put them back in the third and later editions……………:D :laugh: :D Exactly how solid is a scriptural doctrine that can be threatened by the removal of words…[Read more]

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