Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 16 2011,09:14)Mike,Your substituting the name 'Jehovah' for the 'I AM' is not an equivalent substitution and does not fit.  It would not fit in Exodus 3:14 either, see here…God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'”Now with your substitution of…[Read more]

Hi Happyman,I'm happy that you're happy with the KJV. But do you know of any particular scripture the NWT translated to say something the Greek or Hebrew words cannot possibly be saying? Do you know of any “BLATANT CORRUPTION” by the NWT to further their own personal doctrines?mike

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 16 2011,10:26)Mike,I'm still researching this but you can cross off Nebuchadnezzar and Artaxerxes.  Neither of them are kings of kings.  They are both singular, i.e. king of kings according to the morphology that is in my new study tool.Kathi, Why is it that you've had time to already rebut the Nebuchanezzar and A…[Read more]

Kathi,Zechariah 6:14 KJVAnd the crowns shall be to Helem, and to Tobijah, and to Jedaiah, and to Hen the son of Zephaniah, for a memorial in the temple of the LORD.Zechariah 6:14 NKJV “Now the elaborate crown shall be for a memorial in the temple of the LORD for Helem, Tobijah, Jedaiah, and Hen the son of Zephaniah.The Hebrew word is “crowns”,…[Read more]

Okay Kathi.Thanks for that info. I'll try to find where I read that before.

Really Kathi?  You are going to post a scripture that says the Father is "Lord of heaven and earth" and then act as if I am the one misunderstanding the scriptures?  That's too rich!  Kathi, how can THE FATHER be "Lord of heaven and earth" when you insist it is the Father who is the "God part of Jehovah" and the Son who is the "Lord part of Je…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 17 2011,03:14)Of course John 1:1 and 14 qualifiy as a hard to understand verses.  Not only do those verses seem very straightforward to me, but the Bible also contains many other verses that support the meaning of those two.

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,00:20)I apologize. It was not what I meant to say.I don't think you believe that you have grace and I don't, so I kind of figured that's not how your statement was meant to be taken.

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,01:12)Tell me Mike, how can the logos of God increase? “And the logos of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.” The problem you have comes from wanting every mention of “logos” in the scriptures to mean the same…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2011,23:17)Your example demonstrated to me that I myself made in error in assuming that mentioning someone specifically meant they were an exception to the earlier generalization.   Therefore that line of reasoning is flawed.So I'm NOT posting to an unchanging brick wall after all?  How refreshing to know that!  Quote (k…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 17 2011,01:20)I made the point earlier that the same word is used elsewhere in scripture about the inside of the cup and if you use it the same way, then it is indeed inside or within.Hi t8,I think what David has been asking is:  “WHY would you use it the same way?  If the word can mean “within”, but it can also mean “in your m…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2011,23:30)The kingdom of God is of the kingdom of the godly character and the character of God dwells in  those that obey all of Jesus' teachings.That statement is odd enough to me, for a whole KINGDOM cannot dwell within someone.  And when you consider that this KINGDOM wound not only be “within” ONE person, but p…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 16 2011,09:47)David…………You are using your JW Bible translation to support you false teachings of the Kingdom of God…………….The JW'S except nothing but what their “ELDERS” tell them………They have no problem changing scriptures to meet their false teachings, even to the point of translating their own…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2011,21:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2011,19:43)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2011,19:01)the government is in our hearts ,because that is were God says he will put it ,according to scriptures,What scripture says this, Pierre?MikeJer 31:33 “This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time,” dec…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2011,22:29)On  Sep. 16 2011,21:01 Pierre tries to make that point by an appeal to the authority of the translators of various translations of Proverbs 11:25 but one should be able to discern it for themselves from verses like Genesis 6:12 that are obviously referring to the whole person even though it only speaks of a part…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 16 2011,08:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2011,13:01)Hebrews 4:12For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any double-edged sword, piercing even to the point of dividing soul from spirit, and joints from marrow; it is able to judge the desires and thoughts of the heart.You cannot divide the soul FROM the spirit…[Read more]

What “example” Gene? You mean the two SCRIPTURES I quoted directly? Are you asking if the SCRIPTURES I quoted are “right”?

No Kathi, It still makes only ONE God.  I mean, does 8:6 say that for us there are TWO Gods?  Or does it say that for us there is but ONE God?    There is a big difference between the number "ONE" and the number "TWO".  And an even bigger difference in the MEANINGS implied.  So, you have to HONESTLY ask yourself:  If Paul meant to say that Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 16 2011,10:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:40)Kathi,How many θεοὶ are mentioned in John 1:1?  (θεοὶ is the plural form of theos)none.  But there are two who are theos in John 1:1 and they are not the same person.Please explain your answer of “none” when you admit there are two. I don't understand i…

Paladin, You are really a piece of work.    You reposted an old post of yours where you mentioned Heb 11:3………….SO WHAT?  Did that old post of yours say that since the “word of God” in that verse was “rhema”, your whole “secret meaning of logos” plan didn't work?  Because if you DIDN'T say that, then what was this recent post about?  To…[Read more]