Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 17 2011,23:02)Jesus (according to some) is The Word: Is the possibility that this belief may not be Biblical, not worth exploring?Ed, many people who have a wish for Jesus to have been nothing but “exactly like them” have tried to ignore or twist the obvious in John 1:14.But YOU are the ONLY one I've ever spoken to who doesn't…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 17 2011,23:01)Jesus overcame them in Revelation 17:14, because God's HolySpirit raised Jesus back to life. (Rom.8:11)Now he sits in the heavens laughing(Psalm 2:4), as the “HolySpirit” drills these kings. (Rev.19:11-21)The event recorded in Rev 17 is the same event from Rev 19. Both chapters speak of a future event. In 17, the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 17 2011,23:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,05:24)“Ruling with an iron sceptor”.Hi Mike,The verse that I wish to cite is Psalm 110:1-2…The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 17 2011,22:40)Did Jesus ever say he was a god: yes or no?No.

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 17 2011,22:37)1) It could be two aspects of one Entity.     In the beginning was Mike's Mind,     and Mike's mind was with Mike,     and mike's mind was mike.Ed, something cannot BE a particular thing and be WITH that same thing.  This is just common sense Ed.  If Mike's mind was “with” Mike, then Mike's mind WASN'T Mike.  …[Read more]

t8,Can you see the point I'm trying to make to Kathi that if “I AM” is the Name of God, then even in the Trinitarian's imagination, Jesus saying the words “I am” in John 8:58 would only amount to Jesus SAYING GOD'S NAME.  It would never amount to Jesus saying HE IS the one to whom that name belongs, would it?He would be saying, “before Abraham,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2011,03:39)Not sure why someone would want to say that, but it would be true nevertheless.

Btw Ed,There is still a question waiting for you in the Incarnation thread. It is a question that was spawned from your honest YES and NO answers in the post I patted you on the back for.Please find it and answer it.

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 17 2011,21:47)So you admit you can't prove your point, could possibly be wrong, and the other party can prove to be correct;so why would you want to argue a losing position that you admit could be wrong?That's almost accurate, Ed.I admit that I am NOT CERTAIN I will be able to prove my point.  (But I will keep trying…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Sep. 17 2011,21:17)So Mike have you stopped beating your wife??? Yes or NoNO Wm, I haven't stopped beating my wife because I never started beating her in the first place.  (Besides, I'm not married. )Come on Wm.  Give me a HARD one!  Or preferably, give me an example of one of MY "YES or NO" questions that you think co…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 18 2011,08:26)I can't see your point of “DIA”……..I also believe it is created by the Father  THROUGH the Son……….Hi Charles,”Dia” is the Greek word that's sometimes translated as “by”, and other times as “through”.  I can see that won't be an issue between us, as it seems we can both live with “BY the Father, T…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,09:16)Hi Mike,Remember Francis' posts?Anything look familiar here?God blessEd J

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2011,19:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,10:30)Wait a minute.  I thought t8 and Pierre agreed that spirit, soul, and body were THREE different things.  Now it seems as if they think they are only TWO different things, with the spirit BEING the soul.I stand convinced that they are indeed THREE separate and distinct t…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,15:44)As for Jesus “coming down from heaven”, you will never come to an understanding of it's meaning because you are blinded by the words instead of seeing the message behind the words.What are you talking about?  I HAVE come to an understanding.  When my Lord says HE came down from heaven, I believe him.Quote (…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,15:44)Michael, Michael, Michael;Don't you know “A body thou hast prepared me” is a reference to the church, the “children thou hast given me?”Paladin, Paladin, Paladin,Guess again.Hebrews 105 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:   “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,   but a body you pre…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,15:07)Paul said “I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended of you: for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles, though I be nothing.” Thank you – it won't help. I thought the Greek words would be “ego eimi”, but they're not.

Paladin,The Jewish Virtual Library lists the life span of Isaiah from 740-681 B.C.And Wikipedia lists the life span of Cyrus from 576-530 B.C.I don't think you'll find any scholars that list the beginning of the existence of Cyrus as circa 700 B.C., when Isaiah first prophesied about him.Therefore, I think it's a safe bet to say this “A PERSON…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,15:04)Gene did not corrupt God's word and neither did I, We simply tried to find a way to explain it so you would understand it.Well, Gene believes that Jesus being the ROOT OF David means that Jesus CAME FROM David's roots.  Is that a correct assumption, Paladin?I assumed you believed the same from your “sucker tree…[Read more]

Wait a minute. I thought t8 and Pierre agreed that spirit, soul, and body were THREE different things. Now it seems as if they think they are only TWO different things, with the spirit BEING the soul.I stand convinced that they are indeed THREE separate and distinct things.

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,07:31)Like when Paul says “I am become a fool”Paladin,What scripture has these words? I could use that in another discussion I'm having.