Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 21 2011,10:42)Do you agree that the use of the word “Respective” chainges the meaning of the text; yes or no?   …Look up the word.From Dictionary.com:re·spec·tive   /rɪˈspɛktɪv/  Show Spelled  Show IPA adjective pertaining individually or severally to each of a number of persons, things, etc.; particular: I will now disc…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 21 2011,10:42)My choice was 4. God which you did not list as a possibility.Your choice was then #1. A capped “God” in English refers to “THE god” in Greek. All other gods are not capped, nor are they called “THE god”, as in “only one” in the Greek.So in 1:1, THE god, or “God”, was who the Word was WITH. One cannot…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 21 2011,09:40)2) Emmanuel means “God with us”; do you believe that means Jesus is God?It means “God is with us”, as in “on our side”. It does not refer to God coming to earth and praying to Himself or raising Himself from the dead.

t8, who is the author of your signature line? That's one of the best I've ever heard.

Pierre –       Ed, the POINT IS:  If something is a POSSESSION OF someone, it is not actually that someone. But thank you very much for not playing the “there is no 'of' in scripture” game again.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 21 2011,11:26)Agreement with Predicate Substantives27Some of the exceptions to the rule of agreement show an agreement of a different kind; the relative clause is a copulative one with a predicate substantive, and the relative agrees in gender with the predicate substantive rather than with the antecedent in the main…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,04:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 21 2011,11:39)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 20 2011,00:20)My purpose for pointing out that Isaac is the root and offspring of Abraham was not a quote from scripture but was an example of how Jesus is the root of and offspring of David.Well, if it's not scriptural that Isaac was the root of…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,03:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,08:53)And which scripture calls Isaac the root of Abraham? Scripture shows that the root comes “out of” OR IS FOUND IN THE DESCENDANT OF THE ONE NAMED.Judges 5:14 Out of Ephraim was there a root of them against Amalek; after thee, Benjamin, among thy people; out of Machir came…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,02:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,12:11)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,15:44)As for Jesus “coming down from heaven”, you will never come to an understanding of it's meaning because you are blinded by the words instead of seeing the message behind the words.What are you talking about?  I HAVE come to an…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,02:23)You seem to think that a root can only be on one side of the tree, that of begetting the tree, but that is not so. Scripture tells us of a root that dried up, and could bear no fruit “from the tree.”That makes perfect sense.  If the root dries up, the things that FOLLOW cannot be.  The fruit FOLLOWS the root.  …[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,01:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,03:29)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,06:33)When I quote John 1:1 telling us “the logos was God;” then offer another verse that tells us “the spirit, which is the reema of God,” and then give you my conclusion that the logos was God and the reema is the Holy Spirit, what is your…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 21 2011,08:02)The Spirit of God is God's Spirit like the spirit of Mike is Mike's spirit; you are not two, are you?Hi Ed,The spirit OF Mike is not Mike himself, but a possession OF Mike. That's what the word “OF” means, Ed.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 21 2011,13:42)Charles and Mike,I hope you don't mind some input here.It's an open thread, Kathi.

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 21 2011,10:15)Wrong.First it isn’t within our intelligence as mortal beings, that we could say that the Father is greater then Jesus, as a spirit being.When Jesus stated in John 14:28  “I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” He wasn’t referring to divinity or power, but He was referring to His state as a hum…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,19:36)Mike and Happyman,Mike said:Quote They understand it until they are completely and systematically brainwashed by the leaders of their churches that teach the totally nonsensical notion that the Son OF God can BE the God he is the Son OF.The children are taught that the Son of God has the same nature as the God…[Read more]

I tell you what, Kathi.  Let's drop the John 8:58 “I AM” thing for a while so you can focus on showing me the OTHER places in John where Jesus claimed to be God or equal to him.Remember, only the direct quotes of Jesus are allowed, for we are trying to find out what HE taught about himself.I have listed 23 instances where Jesus claimed to be…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,19:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,19:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 18 2011,22:35)Quote Who did Jesus claim to be?I AMActually, he claimed to be the SON OF “I AM”.Ok Mike,Show us what verse tells you this, ya know, where He said that He…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,19:28)Cain and Abel were not created, they were begotten from those that were created.ALL human beings are the creations of God, Kathi. The fact that God created Cain THROUGH Adam and Eve doesn't negate the fact that he was one of God's creations, as we all are.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,19:23)Mike,You need to distinguish ego eimi in the sentences with a direct object and those sentences where ego eimi does not have a direct object.Please note, the same translators that you brag on in John 14:9 translated ego eimi as I AM.  Remember that you don't know the Greek grammar so well and you should not…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 20 2011,19:44)Look for a scripture that literally makes your point and not one you believe infers it.Apply those words to YOURSELF, Kerwin!  Show me the scripture that LITERALLY says Jesus is the “root of David's faith”.  Or one that says Issac is the root of Abraham in any way at all.