Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 21 2011,22:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 22 2011,12:33)Psalm 27 I will proclaim the decree of the LORD:   He said to me, “You are my Son”…………..Ask of me,   and I will make the nations your inheritance…………..You will rule them with an iron scepterRevelation 19his name is the Word of God…………………Out of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 21 2011,22:24)Do you believe that Rev.19 is just a repeat of Rev.17?Hi Ed,17 tells what is about to happen, and 19 describes it as it is happening (in the revelation), including the results. But yes, they both speak of the same beast and the same kings of the earth who make war with the same person: The Lamb/Word of God.

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2011,09:03)Mikeshould go in french,were many words are either masculine or feminine but it is merely for phonetics or distinction and many Latin root languages are similar  PierreYes Pierre! That is exactly my point. Thank you for helping me to drive it home.

Kathi, you said:Quote You can see by the context that 'husband' is intended and not 'ruler.'Abraham, who was the “husband” of Sarah, was the “lord” of Sarah. A husband WAS the lord of his wife, and Sarah called Abraham “my lord”. (Gen 18:12, 1 Peter 3:6)And we all know that “lord” means “master/ruler”.You said:Quote Jesus is the husband to the…[Read more]

Okay Kathi,Concerning the plural of majesty: It is a fact that Dagon, Milcom (Molech) and Asteroth were SINGULAR gods who were called by the plural “elohim”. So that one fact alone will cancel any thought of Jehovah being a plural God – at least based on the use of the word “elohim”.Now, rememeber that “elohim” can either refer to more than one…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 21 2011,19:30)One source says that Moses knew nothing of the majestic plural, also, adonai is not the plural of adown, and adonai and adown are very closely written. I will continue to look into it while I find more compound unity examples.Hi Kathi,It seems to me that you must concede at least one point. Either the word…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2011,21:56)Mike,Believing in many gods is polytheism.  Believing in and acknowledging the fact that other people 'believe in' other gods is two different things.  So, you 'acknowledge' that there are many gods, you only 'believe in' God the Father, god the Son, and god the satan.  Which still describes you as a po…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2011,21:51)Do you see how you only mentioned part of what I admit and leave off the 'are ONE' part.  Don't you find that misleading?MISLEADING?!?  You've GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!  YOU are the one who keeps changing your doctrine around.Kathi, is Jesus “Jehovah God Most High the Son”?  Do you worship him?  Is the Father “Jeh…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 23 2011,16:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 22 2011,10:10)Paladin, from your point of view, is the following a fair assessment of your belief:The Messianic Prophecy is the Root of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, and so on down the line until Jesus Christ.  And the fact that the Messianic Prophecy is Root of all of them…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 23 2011,00:57)I do not see that explicit idea expressed in the Writings.Then you, my friend, are blind.  Perhaps these scriptures will help to remove the scales from your eyes.Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 23 2011,00:57)I am stating that an explicitly expressed idea is more convincing than a argument based on personally perceived…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 22 2011,22:34)I am convinced that the experts do believe that the two words are not always synonyms and I am confident God chooses his words carefully to advance his righteous plan.If they are “not ALWAYS synonyms”, then there is no “set rule of thumb” regarding them.  Like I said:  Take ONE scripture at a time, give your u…[Read more]

Weakness: It's hard for me to read because I don't speak the 17th century King's English.

Kathi,Plural of majesty?

Kathi and Princess,If one is a polytheist by merely believing in the existence of more than one god, then the Hebrews were definitely polytheists.Moses often spoke of the gods of the other nations.  It was Moses who told of Jehovah kicking the behinds of the gods of Egypt.David said, “I will praise you, O Jehovah, with all my heart; before the gods…[Read more]

Happyman,I concur. Except I wouldn't have given the (spirit) choice. All bodies die and decay, and all spirit goes back to Him who gave it. IMO, it has to be the souls that might be saved because of the works of Jesus, and the only true God who sent him.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2011,22:46)Mike,John 6:57Just as the living Father sent me (aorist tense) and I live (present tense) because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live (future tense) because of me.Jesus is talking about His present life…His present life as the man.  The present man that He is, is alive because of the Father.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2011,21:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 22 2011,21:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2011,20:15)Doesn't it bother you that you believe in One Supreme God, the Father and another that is a god, Jesus, and another that is a god, satan?Why would it?  That's exactly what the scriptures teach, Kathi.  Psalm 84 what is man that you a…[Read more]

They claim to have one GOD, but that one GOD is made up of three persons. It's absolute insanity.

Ed, it amazes me that you feel certain things you say can be "used against you". How can the TRUTH be "used against" anyone? On the other hand, if what you are talking is NOT scriptural truth, then I can understand your concern.Now you know why I don't worry about things like that. Feel free to use ANY of the truth I speak "against me" at any…[Read more]

Kathi,The people that Jesus was telling to “feed on him” were already alive in the flesh. The “life” he was talking about was eternal life, which his own God granted him to have in him.