Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,16:52)Actually Mike, the logos “was formed” in flesh,……………….And since that word is “Christ”, it seems you agree that Jesus IS the Word?Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,16:52) ………….thus “became flesh.” That's right.  Not, “came to be IN someone who was already flesh”, but “BECAME FLESH”.

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,16:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 02 2011,01:57)It is scriptural that David is the root of Jesus – ACCORDING TO THE FLESH – making Jesus the branch of David.  But it is equally scriptural that Jesus is ALSO the Root of David, meaning that in some way, Jesus came BEFORE David. Exactly Mike. And I have told you many times…[Read more]

I did it! I'm SOOOOOOO smart! Thanks, t8.

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 09 2011,09:15)Mike,I'm afraid I 'll have to repeat:Jesus said those words to His Father. Right.Yes.  Jesus said to his Father:  “a body YOU (the Father) have prepared for ME (Jesus).Quote (carmel @ Oct. 09 2011,09:15)Obvious,this is done in order for us to be aware, that Jesus and the Father were, and are always one God, s…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 09 2011,06:47)According to you Who will glorify who in one instant,since the Father needs the Son to glorify Himself,and the Son needs His Father to glorify.In respect to this and with human reasoning spiritually no one is superior to the other.We are told to do everything we do to glorify our Maker.  And some of us will even…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 09 2011,02:16)Exactly Mike. All throughout scripture it testifies to this. They both are coming in Glory as one.God shares His glory with NO ONE – not even His own beloved Son.  That is why when Jesus was made flesh, John and the others observed that he had a glory – NOT of God Himself – but of the only begotten OF…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 09 2011,00:45)MYSTERIOUSLY ALMIGHTY GOD BECOMES ALMIGHTY MULTYGODSGod never changes, Charles.  If we were all to become God Almighty with Him, that would signify a change in God.Also, if we all BECOME God Almighty, then after all evil ones are destroyed out of heaven and earth, who then will be “our” servants and the ones…[Read more]

Kerwin,I await your response about the phrase “Maker of ALL things” in Eccl 11:5. Does it refer to God only making CERTAIN things just because the “internally consistent teaching” of the chapter is not about the “act of creation”?

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,08:02)Very Good Mike. Now apply that to the limiting parameter “whether” of Col 1:16.We don't have to go down this road again, for you've already lost the point by agreeing that 1 Peter 2:13-14 referred, not ONLY to the kings and governors specifically mentioned, but to ALL authority – “even down to the cop on the…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,07:48)That is why I agreed with Kathi when she corrected my error.Then why do you STILL state that the spirit is the rhema of God when Kathi showed you that it is clearly the SWORD OF the spirit that is meant?

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,07:25)There is no direct association between Hebrew, Greek, and english as to which words are grammatically masculine, feminine or neuter. Some of them match up in two, some in three, and some in neither consistantly.Hebrew Messiah is male gender in Dan 9:25-26; but Greek xrisma is neuter, in Dan 9:25. Both words mean…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,06:46)All you have to do Mike is take one instance of “logos” andprove from scripture that the particular reference you have selected could equally have used “reema” and given the same message.It is at that point you have rejected the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and present yourself as knowing better than God, what…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,06:38)Well, Mike, at least that's your claim. you have yet to identify a verse that syas “logos applies to any old word in scripture, written or spoken.”What you have to prove is that when scripture says “this one is logos” it means “any old word at all” and then prove the same thing for reema.1 Cor 2:4And my speech…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Oct. 09 2011,03:48)riza = root; Both descendant AND source just like I have been telling you Mike.And like I keep telling you, Jesus would have been redundant in saying, “I am the offspring AND the offspring of David”.  So since you agree that “riza” can refer to either what came before OR to what came AFTER, which meaning makes…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 08 2011,21:58)Interesting as it is perfect tense to the aorist tense of the first usage.And since, as you pointed out, “Aorist verbs can be speaking of when the action started, ended, or its totality”, the fact that the second mention is in the perfect tense points to the conclusion that the first mention, although aorist, is…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 08 2011,23:39)I don't think that Jesus was only saying this to the Jew only….Jesus also said in that same sentence:  “you do not believe the one He sent”.  Was he also saying this to EVERYBODY who ever lived?  Were the Apostles who were there at the time included in this statement?It was to the same exact people Jesus sa…[Read more]

Pierre,Do you know of a particular SCRIPTURE that the NWT “BLATANTLY CORRUPTED” or not?

t8, how would I get one of these photos to show on my post?I tried all the options they gave.

It seems to me that Paul is listing his spirit as something OTHER THAN his mind/intellect.Is this perhaps another use of “spirit” that doesn't fit into your “one size fits all” understanding? ??

The JWs DIRECT answer of “NO” ends the discussion as far as I'm concerned.Now, let's get this thread back on track everybody. I'm anxious to see the scripture that the NWT “BLATANTLY CORRUPTED”.