Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 17 2011,04:01)2 Cor 3:17 Now the LORD is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.Ed, 2 Cor 3:17 speaks of JESUS as Lord………..not Jehovah. And we are slowly being transformed into his image.Compare verses 14, 16 and 17:14….only in Christ is taken away.16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2011,23:34)You word yes/no questions in a way to attempt to strengthen your position.Ed,Did you ever consider that if your HONEST and DIRECT "YES or NO" answer "strengthens MY position", then maybe MY position is the CORRECT one?I don't see how an HONEST answer could strengthen the WRONG position.

Pierre, let me try………………..Jack, we have but ONE God Most High. Jesus is not that One, but the Son OF that One.Jehovah is the Most High God. (Gen 14:22) And Jesus is the SON OF the Most High God. (Mark 5:7) Do you accept these scriptures as truth, Jack?

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 16 2011,19:06)Heb 3:6 But Christ is faithful as a son over God’s house.Not only does it not say that Christ “built the house”, but it clearly lists the owner of the house as God. And the Son OF God is faithful over the house OF his God.How Jack gets “Christ IS God” from this is beyond me, Pierre.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Oct. 16 2011,18:33)It amazes me how you guys won't treat the word 'one' equally. Paul said that there is 'one' God the Father and 'one' Lord Jesus Christ. Yet you guys say that the Father is Lord but deny that Jesus is God. If the expression 'one God' excludes Jesus, then the expression 'one Lord' must exclude the…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Oct. 16 2011,17:30)Yet the Father said to the Son “Your throne O God (hotheos) is forever and ever.”  That scripture is also faithfully translated as “God is your throne forever and ever”.  But even the way YOU like it, you shouldn't overlook verse 9, where we are told that it was the God OF Jesus who placed him above h…[Read more]

Pierre,Job 381 Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm. He said: 2 “Who is this that obscures my plans   with words without knowledge? 3 Brace yourself like a man;   I will question you,   and you shall answer me. 4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?   Tell me, if you understand. 5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 16 2011,16:20)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)I want a simple YES or NO answer, Kerwin. I find a repetitive conversation boring as it does not go anywhere and serves no real purpose.  I wrote what I wrote and have discovered nothing new.Pierre,

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 16 2011,16:20)Here is the example of an English perfect.Quote The grass has grown tall.It is still tall and needs to be mowed. And here is another example of the same:ALL OF THE grass has grown tall.  It is STILL tall.Kerwin, does this tell us that only CERTAIN parts of the grass has grown tall?  Or does it tell us that ALL o…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 16 2011,09:32)As Far as the dinosaur thing goes that has nothing to do with the creation of God at the Beginning of Genesis , and Mans creation, that was a completely different age or eion.But dinosaurs, if in fact created by God, would be INCLUDED in the “all things” that God created “for” Jesus, right?How could they…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 16 2011,09:17)many will wake up lateNo matter how hard you and I try to wake them up on time.

Hi Theo,What your comment did was feed into Ed's own fallacy that if he doesn't WANT to DIRECTLY address a point, it is somehow the fault of the person asking the hard questions – the questions that might show his position on the matter to be in error.Now, if I had asked Gene the question I asked you, I would have gotten his standard rhetoric…[Read more]

Hi Pierre,What bothers me the most is that there is hardly ever any acknowledgment.  They make a claim, I show them scripturally how their claim is flawed, and instead of saying “OH!”, they just go on to OTHER claims.Over and over and over again.I started this thread by showing Charles the first three claims in his list on the first page of the…[Read more]

t8 runs a tight ship!

Hi Raz,You have to request the privilege of “Edit” from the owner of the site.  You can send a pm to t8 and make your request.Or ask via this thread.

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 16 2011,10:21)Since as you stated  that the body is only a vessel, and useless, and only the spirit gives life, do you believe that Jesus was really grateful to have such a useless body considering the fact that He himself massacred it.Logically:Is that what you do when somebody gives you something and you feel so grateful…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 16 2011,09:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 11 2011,11:46)I want to know how Christians can take a statement that refers to Jesus and his Father as “WE” (as in TWO beings), and then come to the conclusion that only ONE is being spoken of.    THIS IS HOW MIKE! Reflect on what you stated: Quote Sort of.  My body is simply a vessel th…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 16 2011,06:08) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 11 2011,11:46)Define how they would have literally “ate his body” even if he was God.  It is metaphorical, Charles.Isn’t the whole of creation the manifestation of God in Jesus' Spirit, since only the spirit gives life.No Charles.  We are not the “manifestation of God”.  We are crea…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 16 2011,05:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 15 2011,15:22)What does the fact that I belong to Jehovah have to do with whether or not I existed from eternityWhat if I tell you that as a rightfull Christian,If you were born Christian, you became eternal,and it is, in a mode to say like you were eternally exsisted with the…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 16 2011,02:38)Jesus in the above scriptures, FIRST HE USED THE MODE “I SEND”,AND THEN HE USED THE MODE “YOU WILL PUT” to indicate that He sent them in the past.Let me get this straight:  You think the words “YOU WILL PUT THEM TO DEATH” refer to prophets that had ALREADY BEEN PUT TO DEATH in the past?  Why?Quote (carmel @ O…[Read more]