Berean:Mike

quickly, what is MSM?

Thanks

Sorry, the MSM is the “mainstream media”.  Did you know that only 6 entities own and control 90% of the media?

These 6 corporations control 90% of the media outlets in America. The illusion of choice and objectivity

Adam: Mike, Miia and few others think that the Vaccine is the Mark of the Beast based on the ancient texts of First Century CE than trusting the Science and Medicine of our day.

Your ignorance is on full display here, Adam.  First of all, I don’t think this biological weapon you want us to have injected into our bodies is the mark of the b…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  So I did my own research Mike and kept it related to my world.

If your research includes only MSM sources, then you haven’t done ANY actual research.  Remember when we talked about Israel?  You easily found a MSM source to tell you that even though 80% of the nation was vaxxed, their extremely high hospitalization rate was due to th…[Read more]

Proclaimer, you didn’t answer my question.  You asserted that there would be more deaths and long term symptoms without the mRNA injection they’re calling a “vaccine”.  I asked for data that supported that assertion.  If you have none, you should just say that.

Proclaimer: …a young person still suffering from fatigue who needs to sleep up to 20…

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Mike:  Wouldn’t natural herd immunity provide the same results… without anyone having to inject foreign mRna into their bodies – multiple times for the foreseeable future?

Proclaimer: Yes. But more deaths and longterm symptoms. 

According to what Covid 19 data, specifically?

Miia: Can anyone show me a scripture that says you have to knowingly take the mark of the beast (i.e., that it will not be done through deception).

Rev 13:8…  All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

Involves willf…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  The argument is simple. If enough people get vaccinated and we get herd immunity, then there is nowhere for the virus to go and it will mostly die off.

Wouldn’t natural herd immunity provide the same results… without anyone having to inject foreign mRna into their bodies – multiple times for the foreseeable future?

Miia:  For covid, I ordered Wormwood seeds (the plants are just starting to grow), which is what they used in Africa (kills internal parasites and viruses). We also have outside a sweet variety of grapefruit which can make a natural form of Quinine.

What will you do with the wormwood plants?  Eat the leaves?  Make tea of them?  Just curious as thi…[Read more]

According to Public Health England’s COVID-19 variant report, between February 1, 2021 and September 12, 2021, 52% of delta cases, 47% of emergency care visits, and 71% of delta deaths had at least one of dose of the…[Read more]

For those of you who (for some irrational reason) still think that the leaders of this world care about you and have your well being in mind…

… why do you suppose the video Miia shared was deleted by YouTube?  You people need to wake the heck up already!  The social media giants (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Google, etc) are C…[Read more]

Berean:  In the beginning, if Jesus was not God (having the same attributes as his Father) and in harmony with Him, he would have had no right to be the savior of the world, because only the Creator can save his creatures.
The greatest of (created) angels could not have been a candidate for this mission.

Yeah, I hear what you’re saying.  I heard i…[Read more]

Adam:  So you think our human souls are immortal?

Well, what’s the definition of “immortal”?  A living thing is immortal if it will not cease to exist by natural or accidental causes.  You have already said that the OT speaks about living again after death, right?  And we learn in the OT that after Samuel died, he still existed – but as a sle…[Read more]

Adam:  The above interpretation was of the writer of Luke Gospel and not of Moses. The Hebrew Bible was simply quoting the statement of God Yahweh “I am (Yahweh) God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” It doesn’t mean Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not really dead.

The above was a quote from Jesus the Messiah of God – not an “interpretation” from Luke. …[Read more]

Berean: If Jesus was a creature before HIS incarnation he could not become the savior of the world…

Why not?

Berean:  BUT BECAUSE Jesus covered our humanity on his divinity, HE WAS  QUALIFIED TO BECOME THE SAVIOR IF THE WORLD.

I don’t deny that Jesus was, and is, divine.  He is the second most powerful god in existence after all.  But where can…[Read more]

LU: Mike,

Was Jesus begotten from the grave? If so, by whom?

Yes, Jesus was raised from the dead by his and our God, YHWH.

Kathi, did God send His only-begotten Son into the world?  Did God offer up His only-begotten Son as a sacrifice?

The answers to my questions will render your argument moot before you even make it.  Acts 13:33 can’t po…[Read more]

Adam:  Hi Proclaimer, do you mean Jesus did not really die like any mortal?

Jesus died like any other mortal.  If he did not die and be raised as a true mortal man, then what hope have we to die and be raised as true mortal men?

But to die as a mortal man does not mean to cease to exist entirely.

Luke 20:37-38… Even Moses demonstrates that t…[Read more]

So that being said, back to that other route I’m trying…

There are only 3 possibilities, Adam…

1.  Jesus was indeed the prophesied Messiah, and God did miracles through him.

2.  Jesus was not who he claimed to be, and God did miracles through a liar.

3.  God never did miracles through Jesus at all.

Which of those 3 do you believe?

Adam:  Please prove Jesus as Jewish Messiah with the requirements as specified in Hebrew Bible and there ends the matter.

Mike:  Please first prove that God actually exists via the Hebrew Bible. 

Adam: It’s funny too as you are avoiding my question on Jesus’ Messiahship. I need not prove the existence of God based on Hebrew Bible as it’s a…

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Adam: I was arguing that God is not a man (or can not become a man). An immortal being can not become mortal if so there is no meaning of immortality.

There are different meanings of “immortal”.  It can mean “from AND to eternity” – as is the case with God.  It can also mean “to eternity” – as is the case with God’s spirit sons who are not FROM et…[Read more]

Carmel:  THERE IS A DISPUTE BETWEEN A LAWYER AND AN ARCHITECT !  DO YOU MEAN THAT A MEDIATOR CANNOT BE  ANOTHER  LAWYER OR ANOTHER ARCHITECT?

Not at all.  I’m telling you that if the dispute is between Architect John and Lawyer Jim, the mediator cannot be EITHER Architect John OR Lawyer Jim.  A mediator cannot be one of the parties he media…[Read more]