Interesting. I'll have to read up on her some more. Perhaps the things said about her in Rev also point to the Trinity.(Btw, I'm not married to this conclusion. It just seems to fit into my current understanding. I have a lot more research to do.)

It seems to me that you should let sleeping dogs lie, Shimmer. Why throw salt into an open wound? Someone else might start throwing into your wound if you do.

It seems to me that you should let sleeping dogs lie, Shimmer. Why throw salt into an open wound? Someone else might start throwing into your wound if you do.

Hi BD,I agree with your post.  And I believe Jesus was the first being ever created by God.  I believe that all other things were then subsequently created by God through Jesus.  I believe that Jesus was existing in this cushy position next to his God before he was sent on a mission to earth – the success of which depended upon him being flesh fo…[Read more]

Kathi?

Kathi?

Gene?

Gene?

Kathi?

Kathi?

Eddy? Gene? Kerwin? Paladin?

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 26 2011,21:12)people worship him this is only allowed to a god ,no??Pierre,You are not alone in your belief about the pope and the Catholic Church in general. But in order for your claims to be more than just idle words, you'll need to show proof of the pope ever claiming to be God Himself, or asking to be worshipped as…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 26 2011,20:21)Hi Mike,I'm not against the JW's.God blessEd JEd, You once told me that the “I shall prove to be what I shall prove to be” translation of “YHWH” was “the one thing the NWT got right”.Then you've started and participated in more than one thread trying to show them to be a “bad” organization.If this is how you act…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 27 2011,00:06)Yes, of course Jesus is The Word in John 1……..Good, we agree on that.Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 27 2011,00:06)Even when we talk about the light Jesus also says that all of his followers are the light:Actually, Jesus said he was the light of the world.  Then later, he told his disciples that he would be…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 27 2011,00:50)I believe the bible not the quran.Shimmer, I've never read the quran.  What I spoke of came straight from the Bible.Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 27 2011,00:50)What the literal lake of fire is I don't know. Just the way Mike and you were describing it made me laugh.Then you are not laughing at me or BD, but at the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 27 2011,00:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 27 2011,07:32)I'm undecided.  Why?  Does my percieved image of the lake of fire or souls have any bearing on what I said?It doesn't really, I'm just curious about it as an aside.You seem to be making promises of things that you cannot describe to others.StuartThe only promise I make is t…[Read more]

Stu,Read your own post to see what I mean.  You have FAITH in the senses and intellects of human beings.  That FAITH in the abilities of these things you KNOW are flawed cause you to come to your “provisional truth”.I don't rely that heavily on the flawed human brain.  I rely on the unflawed Creator of all things.I believe it was Aurthor Clarke wh…[Read more]

Shimmer,Have you been drinking? What are you talking about? Ed, I told you so! Nah-nah-nah-nah-nah!

Shimmer,Have you been drinking? What are you talking about? Ed, I told you so! Nah-nah-nah-nah-nah!

Tim,What can I say?  Your understanding, while good natured and optimistic, is not even close to what the scriptures teach.  Gene has listed one scripture that tells of a fatal warning from Jesus.  I'll add two more:Matthew 10:15I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.Tim, do…[Read more]