And Kathi, my brackets were to explain to you how I read Paul's words.  Here is perhaps a better explanation:God did this………….  And God said this about His angels……………..but about His Son, God said this……………and God also said this………..and, since we're on the subject of what GOD did and said, You Lord, laid the f…[Read more]

My challenge was for you to find a supporting scripture, where Jesus is listed as the subject in the act of creation. Are you able to do that? Or is Heb 1:10 all you have?I'd settle for a scripture that speaks of our CREATORS.

Hi Kathi,Neither of your examples show the word “echad” to MEAN “unity”.  The word still MEANS “the number one”, although the “one” mentioned is a unity of two.We know God speaks of a unity of more than one in both cases, because the context tells us so.  But that doesn't make the Hebrew word “echad” MEAN (as in: HAVE THE DEFINITION OF) “…[Read more]

Then where will you stop, Frank? Will you make the “erroneously translated” accusation on any scripture that doesn't meet the approval of your doctrine?Either accept the scriptures as the inspired word of God………or don't. But you can't just pick and choose the ones that fit into your doctrine and call the ones that don't fake.Please address…[Read more]

John 1 29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ 1.  Frank, is it clear to you, based on the word “Jesus” in verse 29, that John says these bolded words about…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 28 2011,15:55)Ed,Absolutely I'm glad Keith posts here.  I have probably learned more about scripture because of him than anyone else on this site.  He is sharp and sharpens me.  But what made you think I was asking a question about Keith?  Eddy?

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 29 2011,18:26)The thing is if Paul really met with Jesus on the road this was well after Jesus ascended but Jesus said he would not ascend again until it was his time to come with the Holy angels and reward each man according to HIS worksand how would they see him return?Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,18:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,11:26)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,17:30)I never said that I believed “God was with God”! What foolishness!That's right Frank,It is complete foolishness.  But that is exactly what YOUR preferred translation of John 1:1 says – “In the beginning, God was WITH God”.If…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,18:31)No Greek “kudos” to you Pierre! You are easily shot down in your foolish reasoning! You will need a better education to deal with me!Says the fool who can't even address most of our posts!Frank, what happened when you read John 1:30? What about when you read 1:29 to find out who 30 was talking about?Then…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2011,17:50)paid attention that it does not say WORDS it say THE WORD Jn 1;1 ,so if he was talking about his own words it would be plurialGreat point, Pierre! It says “THE WORD”, not “words”. It is a title for God's main spokesman, Jesus.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,17:48)Mike,I believe that Father Yahweh's word was with Him and that His word had power, might and strength. This is the initial Hebrew meaning of the word that has been erroneously translated as “God” or “god”.Frank,I don't think “erroneously translated” is a fair claim, for John wrote what he wrote.I will agree…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,17:30)I never said that I believed “God was with God”! What foolishness!That's right Frank,It is complete foolishness.  But that is exactly what YOUR preferred translation of John 1:1 says – “In the beginning, God was WITH God”.If the Word IS God, then 1:1 says “God was WITH God”.But one thing cannot be WITH…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,17:19)Mike,I have previously made known to you that I was not CREATED, but was BORNSo then you are NOT a creation of your God, Frank?  Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,17:19)You believe that Yahshua created and I do not.The only thing Jesus is ever said to have “created” is the whip he made out of cords.  I d…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 29 2011,14:18)If I am correct then in his heart Mike has understood the noun “Word” to symbolize Jesus and so considers that part of English “the him” spoken of in John 1:14 while I see it as speaking of the noun phrase “The Word made flesh”.Kerwin,At least now you are addressing the POINT I was making.  My point was never ab…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 29 2011,16:50)There are 2 accounts one Paul said he saw and the other he said he heard.Show me.

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,16:49)WHO IS THE WORD?     (John 1:1)In  John 1:1 the writer is very plain in telling us who the 'word' was. He says the word was God.Actually, he says the Word was WITH God.  God cannot possibly be WITH God, Frank.What 1:1 REALLY says is, “the logos was with THE god, and was a god”.Frank, John 1:1 speaks of TWO…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,16:56)t8,Nowhere in Scripture does it ever teach “Jesus is the Word of God who later came in the flesh for our sakes.” This is nothing but a foolish, false, deceptive, and demonic doctrine of mere men and a twisting of Father Yahweh's prophetic inspired word.Actually, I just clearly showed you and Gene that…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,11:22)Father Yahweh ALONE created within Adam (mankind – man and woman) a reproductive system and I was BORN THOUGH this process and was not directly created by Father Yahweh. I see.  So it's okay with you that you were created THROUGH “a process”, but not THROUGH Adam and Eve themselves?  Frank, if you ARE a c…[Read more]

It seems the claim that nothing could ever travel faster than light is just another claim by humans that was later found out to be wrong by humans.Top rung of the intellectual ladder, huh?

Jesus speaking to Paul on the road wasn't his second coming any more than God speaking to various prophets and disciples was “the dreadful day of the Lord”.Jesus said that like lightning that is seen from the east to the west, all would see his second coming. In fact, Paul heard Jesus, he didn't see him.