Quote (jammin @ Dec. 18 2011,19:18)i am waiting mike, where did you find that the son and the father are equally spirit beings according to phil 2:6Is the Father a spirit being, jammin? YES or NO?(Btw, I'm still waiting for YOU to show me a scripture that says the Son is EQUAL WITH the Father. Because even with the comically flawed Message…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 18 2011,19:20)I can certainly agree that Jesus humanity was created.But I don't think that any of our spirits are created, rather they are given by God who is uncreated.Angels ARE spirits.  Are you saying they weren't created?Quote (t8 @ Dec. 18 2011,19:20)Thus if Jesus came from God before all creation, then when he was a man is…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 18 2011,18:26)for the jews, if you claim that you are the SON of GOD means you are GOD!John 8:41″You are doing the things your own father does.” “We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”Apparently, the Jews who said this thought they themselves were “GOD”, huh?

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 18 2011,18:26)even the jews did not agree that christ is equal with GODWhat is it with you people? Do you not even hear what your own mouth says, jammin?What does the word “CHRIST” even mean? Can you tell me? How many christs are there in scripture? Any idea?And how many times must I say it: If one is EQUAL WITH…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2011,13:30)Hebrews says that God spoke through the prophets in many ways.  That leaves it wide open as to how or who He spoke through to the prophets.Ah, but it doesn't leave any options as to WHO that God was. The God who spoke to us through the prophets was the SAME God who spoke to us through His Son Jesus.I'm sure…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2011,13:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2011,22:53)Kathi, If Trinitarians believe Jesus is God Most High, then they believe that Jesus is the God he is the Son of.  No, trinitarians believe that God is made of more than one person, one of those persons is the Father and another of those persons is the Son.KathiKathi,1.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2011,12:46)i agree with you jammin' Jesus is not a created angel…He created the angels.1. Jesus IS an angel of God, because he is a messenger of God…………..right jammin?2. Jesus WAS created, because Paul says so in Colossians 1:15, and Jesus himself says so in Revelation 3:14.3. We have A CREATOR, not…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 18 2011,10:55)Now answer my question to You . Does God TRULY LOVE US (EVEN AS HE LOVES THE SON)?, Does he love the son differently then he does us MIKE?.Actually, that's TWO questions, Gene.But the answer to both of them is “YES”. YES, God loves us AND ALSO loves Jesus. And YES, God loves Jesus differently than he…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2011,12:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2011,09:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 17 2011,23:22)Amen jammin, and welcome!  It is God not god you are absolutely correct!KathiActually, Kathi agrees that there are TWO completely different gods spoken of in John 1:1 – one of whom was WITH the other.In fact, Kathi and I once agreed…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 18 2011,12:43)Really?  Human sacrifice?  No clear opinion?  Wow.I also don't know how God will deal with your disbelief in Him.  Why would you think I would know God's mind?  I follow Micah 6:8 – Love mercy, do justice, and walk humbly with your God.  I don't need to know God's every thought on every subject in order…[Read more]

Galatians 1 1 Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the FatherT8, was Paul sent by MAN? Yes or No? Was Paul sent by Jesus? Yes or No?12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.Did Paul receive his gospel from any MAN? Yes or No?Did he r…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2011,13:58)All you have shown does not discredit the unity of God made up of more than one member.God Almighty is ONE Being.  And He has a SON named Jesus.Do God AND His Son act in unity with each other?  Absolutely.  Are they both “parts of” God Almighty?  Only in your dreams. Do we have TWO Almighty Gods? Pre…[Read more]

Interesting. I was using a 30 day trial of Norton Antivirus when it happened with me. It has not happened again since I let the Norton expire.

I will not waste my time commenting on the Trinitarian biased, flawed interpretation of Phil 2:6 that the Message Bible gave.In reality, Phil 2:6 does NOT equate Jesus with his God, no matter how bad your translation wants to force this belief.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 17 2011,20:19)It is your view that Jesu s felt this way:Psalm 22:2O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. But the truth is this: John 11:42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 17 2011,20:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2011,00:38)Did God fake the death of Jesus?  Did everyone who saw Jesus die have a false vision put in their minds?  When they carried Jesus' dead body off and put it in the cave, was Jesus just playing 'possum?Walk us through that day, from the sentencing to the burial.Anything I…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 15 2011,08:39)The clause “and the Word was God” is translated from the Greek “theos en ho logos.” In Greek it is not necessary to use the definite article with a predicate nominative in this kind of sentence. In fact, doing so would change the meaning in a way that would confuse what John was saying. Using the definite article…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 16 2011,12:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 16 2011,07:53) Mike I have posted this writing regarding your point.I would mostly apprciate it if you were to  comment .Absolutely, Charles.  There are many flaws in it, and many conclusions that are jumped to when the scriptures don't bear those conclusions out.  I will take this pi…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 17 2011,23:22)Amen jammin, and welcome!  It is God not god you are absolutely correct!KathiActually, Kathi agrees that there are TWO completely different gods spoken of in John 1:1 – one of whom was WITH the other.In fact, Kathi and I once agreed to the Father being “GOD”, with all caps, Jesus being “God”, with only the…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 17 2011,21:48)so we are talking here about john 1:1and according to page 70 mike there are 3 possble translation.Hi jammin.  It seems that you know more today than you knew yesterday, and that was the point.  At least now, even if you don't agree with the NWT's “a god” translation, you are aware that it is one of THREE p…[Read more]