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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2011,14:25)Quote (jammin @ Dec. 25 2011,17:58)mike, GOD is not a throne. hahahaha.your NWT is wrong. hahahahalet me post the NWTHEBREWS 1:8But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever and ever, and scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.according to NWT, GOD is your throne means GOD is a t…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 26 2011,18:28)read a translation mike that FALLEN ANGELS ARE ALSO SONS OF GOD IN JOB 1:6CAN YOU READ A TRANSLATION OR NOT???? HAHAHAHAHAHAH STOP MAKING EXCUSES :D :D :DCan YOU “read me a translation” that says FALLEN ANGELS ARE NO LONGER SONS OF GOD?  CAN YOU READ A TRANSLATION OR NOT???? HAHAHAHAHAHAH STOP MAKING EXCUSES :D :D :D

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 26 2011,18:22)me: so you also believe that satan is a fallen angel. hahahahaha. and he is not part of the heavenly court. then why you are insisting that the sons of GOD in job 1:6 also referred to the fallen angelsBECAUSE HE WASN'T YET A FALLEN ANGEL AT THIS TIME. Don't you listen, jammin? ???Read Ezekiel 28:12-17. I'm not…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 26 2011,18:15)is satan divine?You tell me. He is called “god” by both Jehovah and Paul. Does that make him “diety”? Does that make him “divine”?And more importantly, do either of those things really matter? We are trying to figure out if Satan is a son of God. Job 1 AND 2 say “YES”. YOU say “NO”. Hmmmm…………who to…[Read more]

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    Why not address this part from the link I gave you then:In and of itself, this is not conclusive because the context of this verse in Psalm 45 is dealing with a king which would make one wonder why he would be addressed as God. Well jammin? Why would the writer of Psalm 45 be calling an earthly king “God”?Also, if it was about God Most High, why…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 25 2011,17:42)was phil 2:6 talking about the resurrected christ or GOD who took the form of a man?Neither.  Phil 2 speaks of the resurrected Christ BEFORE he was sent BY HIS GOD AND OUR GOD into the world as a sacrificial Lamb that HIS GOD supplied for us.He WAS in heaven with God.  Then emptied himself and WAS MADE into a h…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2011,22:57)Terra.THe name jehovah is being mentioned all the time by the witnisses; why? It is because they are trained to advertise the bible tract society called by that brand. Its like advertising cocacola.Are you arguing against the transliteration “Jehovah” versus “Yahweh”?  Or against the use of “YHWH” all together?…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 26 2011,14:11)I think I gave a pretty good explanation of how a baby can learn that pointing is beneficial.Humans, after all, do have the capacity to learn more quickly than do other mammals.Okay, then WHY do you suppose dogs CAN learn this when apes, with their higher intellectual ability, cannot?

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 25 2011,17:59)GOD IS NOT THE THRONE! THE HEAVEN IS THE THRONE OF GOD!Actually, both of them are metaphorical.  God's throne is IN heaven, not “heaven itself”.Do you think all the angels who dwell in heaven dwell in the throne of God?  When God's SERVANT Jesus sits down at the right hand of God's throne (Heb 12:2), do you s…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 25 2011,17:58)mike, GOD is not a throne. hahahaha.your NWT is wrong. hahahahalet me post the NWTHEBREWS 1:8But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever and ever, and scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.according to NWT, GOD is your throne means GOD is a throne!Let me educate you ONCE AGAIN, j…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 25 2011,17:18)the bible said that. divine angels. satan is not divine mike. read a verse! Actually, the Hebrew text just says “sons of God”.  It was an English translator that chose to render it as “divine angels” in the translation you quoted.  Get your facts straight, jammin.Quote (jammin @ Dec. 25 2011,17:18)according to j…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2011,01:21)Hi Mike.Where is in the bilbe mentioned: God emptied himself?Nowhere. Why?

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    Quote (942767 @ Dec. 25 2011,19:25)Hi Mike:Do you agree that the scripture relative to Jesus being foreordained in the scripture that I quoted from 1 Peter 1 is speaking of Jesus who was conceived of the Holy Ghost in the womb of the virgin Mary?Absolutely. It speaks of his blood, something that doesn't exist in spirit beings.

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2011,07:41)Only God can give us understanding.peace to all, we are learning.Amen.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago

    Of course I'm serious about it, Tim.  And I appreciate your attempt, but I highly doubt that “Their hands were too busy doing other things” is the reason. In the show where I saw this, they tried hard to TRAIN apes this ability – to no avail.Yet dogs and little baby humans were hip to the technique immediately, as if this knowledge was inbred or…[Read more]

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    Good post, Asana.  The point is that Muslims worship the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob as their ONLY God.  We also worship that same God.That is not to say that Muslims haven't added to or taken away from scripture – that is what this discussion should be about.  And it should be done ONE point at a time, IMO.  Like, list something from the Qur…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Dec. 26 2011,00:56)Hi Gene,     Jn. 8:58     Jesus said to them, ” Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am.”That's right.  Or, properly translated into the English language:“Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I have been.”Similar to the way the same words are usually translated in this verse:John 14:9…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 25 2011,12:46)Mike……………God is not a “PERSON” God is a SPIRIT, of a person, YAHWEH,Please explain this statement, Gene.For example, who created the universe? The PERSON Yahweh? Or the “spirit OF Yahweh”? And which one of those two is our God? ???

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2011,12:12)his translation of john 1:1 is ; and the word was A GOD.i totally was amazed about their wording,it totally gives another meaning to what God is saying,Wakeup,”A god” IS the correct translation of John 1:1c.  And you can read our discussion about it in the thread called “Blatant Corruption in the NWT”.That is…[Read more]

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