Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,19:24)Hi MB, The WORD spoke through the vessel of Jesus. No surprises there.You're confused, Nick.  Jesus IS the Word.  He is the Word of God because he is God's spokesman – God spoke through him as He did through many other prophets.It was the sentient BEING Jesus who said he had existed before Abraham.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,19:39)Hi MB, What defines a human being?Well, flesh for one thing. Have you even known of a human being who didn't have flesh, Nick?

Wakeup,What does that have to do with whether or not Jesus is a human being in heaven?

I'm waiting for you to post the exact words I spoke that caused you to say:You speak as if you have stopped learning.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2012,19:14)Mikeis this a way to talk to your father in the spirit ??My Spirtual Father is in heaven, Pierre.

How do you KNOW that, Nick? Did a spirit tell you that? Or have you come to know this through your ability to read and understand scripture – things we can do only because of our God-given wisdom and logic?

And………………….?How does that relate to John 8:58?

I'm waiting.

Nick, He is no longer a human being.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,19:04)Hi MB,You speak as if you have stopped learning. Is that what you think?Nick,Which exact words did I use that would lead you to that conclusion?  Put your money where your big mouth is for once.  Stand and defend the smart-ass quips you go around making to everyone here – as if you are more “spiritually l…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2012,19:06)So you choose to go against what Scripture teaches; well it is your choice to make.Did Paul go against scripture in 1 Cor 8:6? Did God go against scripture when He spoke of other gods?

What we know, Nick, is that Jesus is no longer a human being.And that's the point I was making with this thread.

Pierre,And if we play that game, where will it leave us? We will have Nick trying to pass unscriptural things as truth, saying, “You must be guided by the spirit to understand it”.We will have you and I saying the same thing to prove the OPPOSITE of what Nick believes.We will have the Trinitarians saying, “I know it doesn't make sense to the…[Read more]

Yes Nick,The Gentiles and Israel will be united as a new man. What does that have to do with Jesus being a human being in heaven right now?

What does that mean, Nick? Does it pertain to the topic of this thread? If so, how?

I wish that was what he was trying to tell us, Pierre. Because then he'd be speaking scripturally. Jesus is now a SPIRIT, and a SPIRIT is not a HUMAN BEING.And now, because he knows he lost the point, he's trying to say, “Who really cares what Jesus is now?”

Nick,Did you have an answer to my last question or not? In fact, I notice that you prefer making senseless quips to actually answering the questions I've asked you. Some things never change, I guess.I'm here to discuss scriptures and defend my understandings. If you are not willing to defend yours, then don't bother speaking to me, okay?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,14:44)Hi mB, At least three times scripture tells us he was a man./ EG acts 2.22-23I don't believe anyone on this site argues the fact that Jesus was once a man.Your scriptures say that Jesus was a man who died. We all know that.They don't say he is still a man in heaven……….nor does any scripture for that…

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,15:48)Hi, Jesus is still a manEphesians 2:15by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,You're not reading the context, Nick.  This is from NETNotes:Eph 2:152tn In this context…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2012,15:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 10 2012,06:43)The following info is from NETNotes, comprised from 25 Trinitarian scholars, who would like nothing more than for John 1:1c to really say “the Word was God” – meaning Jesus is God Himself.Colwell’s Rule is often invoked to support the translation of θεός (qeos) as definite (…[Read more]