Ed, Do we really need to have the same discussion in two threads?

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2012,10:36)Does that not mean: ONLY those who 'WILL BE' JW's in the future?Does it say those words, Ed? Stay focused.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2012,10:01)Quote They can say what they like,the fact is that we are all in babylon in their eyesProve that or hush.Quote only the jws are in the kingdom reign by christ from heaven.Prove that or hush.Quote We are not in that kingdom.Prove that or hush.Quote They also believe that christ has already come invisibly in 1914: P…[Read more]

Ed,Here is the rest of their answer:No. Millions that have lived in centuries past and who were not Jehovah's Witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life. Many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness before the “great tribulation,” and they will gain salvation. Moreover, Jesus said that we should…[Read more]

JKOO, Have you run away yet again?

Wakeup,Paul wants to know who you are to judge another master's servant.If they are teaching against the scriptures, then educate us all so we don't get trapped.  (But in order to do that, you must first find where they teach against the scriptures.  You have been challenged – let's see if you actually know what you're talking about, or if y…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2012,09:05)MikeB.You say you are not jw. but the QUESTION about the jws must have touch a raw nerve.Simple-minded prejudice DOES touch a nerve with me.  Wakeup, what you, Nick, Ed, and others here post concerning the JWs is tantamount to saying, “Black people think this” – without any proof that they really do.  Or “Black p…[Read more]

Did you not see the answer in green that I posted straight from the JW website?  Any questions you have about the JWs can be answered on that website.  Then, AFTER READING THEIR OFFICIAL ANSWERS, if you disagree with one of those answers, or think they've got something scripturally wrong, bring that ONE THING up in this thread so we can see if i…[Read more]

Verses 23 and 24? “Fashioned”? “Given birth”?

Gene,Hosea 6:7Like Adam, they have broken the covenant— they were unfaithful to me there.

Gene,The “rock” was the recognition that Jesus was the foretold Messiah.  That is the main point of every disciple's teaching – that Jesus was indeed the Christ who was to come.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,19:02)Hi MB, Do you regard this as some sort of carnal competition??Wouldn't you rather be speaking scripturally, Nick? If you are attempting to teach here, and I notice that what you're teaching doesn't align with the scriptures, should I remain silent?

Jesus will continue to be known as the Son of Man forever, Gene – despite the fact that he became a spirit.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2012,22:31)Hi MB,Indeed Jesus CHRIST is the Word.The WORD was made flesh and dwelt among usThe WORD was MADE flesh? Or came to be IN someone who was flesh? Which one, Nick?Also, you didn't answer:Is the WORD an individual being, that is alive separately from God?

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 10 2012,19:36)MikeI know nick we have been nose to nose ,but it is answers that are no answers that get to me ,it is like talking to a tree year old, I agree, Pierre, and told him that very thing the last time he was around.But what's even worse than the non-answers are the flippant remarks insinuating that the other…[Read more]

I am not a JW, Wakeup.  Yet I follow the scriptures incredibly close to the way they do – with the exception of a couple interpretations.Don't you suppose there were others like me, t8, and Pierre before the JWs organized?  Here is your “official” answer:Do the Witnesses believe that their religion is the only right one?Anyone who is serious a…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2012,23:37)They follow their elders; they tell them what to do and where to go.Did it ever occur to you that these are not blind sheep, but people who have seriously studied the scripture and have come to the conclusion that what the JWs teach is the closest thing to what the scriptures teach?I am not a JW, Wakeup.  But…[Read more]

From the first post on page 6 of this thread, we all saw that there are three possibilities of translating John 1:1 c.  Now, with the help of human logic (for Nick) and the expertise of the 25 TRINITARIAN scholars of NETNotes, we'll eliminate one of those three possibilities.From NETNotes:The construction in John 1:1c does not equate the Word…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 11 2012,04:21)Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 11 2012,16:21)An angelic being is not a person, it is a being.An angel is not a being,they are creatures,for they are created.From what word does “personality” derive? A “person” is anyone with their own, individual personality.I am a person, despite the fact that I am a human BEING, and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2012,22:32)Hi MB, 1Cor85 For even if there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many gods and many lords),The term “so-called” is added by some translators.  That meaning is not in Paul's words, but imagined by translators who think there is literally only one god – despite the…[Read more]