Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 12 2012,02:12)Hi MB, So you say. But with what evidence?With the evidence of Gal 1:1 and 11. With the evidence that human beings were made a little lower than the spirit beings, meaning they are not one and the same.The same evidence that tells us human beings are not fish or birds, Nick.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2012,02:52)Nick.In God is his word,was made flesh became his son.Wakeup,Do you have an answer to the question of this thread?A. Jesus said those words.B. The Word said those words through Jesus.Which one, Wakeup?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 12 2012,02:19)Hi MB, You need to discern the Word from the vessel.Now they are eternally one.At what point in time did they become eternally one, Nick?

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2012,23:05)Hi Mike,Not so fast; perhaps you may not actually be agreeing with me?It's the fathers glory that Jesus shared with YHVH, not his own.I'm okay with the fact you're wrong about the glory for right now, Ed. (The Father shares His glory with no other.)What's important is that you realize the PERSON Jesus is the one…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 12 2012,02:28)Hi MB, I thought the inquisition had finished.It has only just begun.

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 12 2012,03:18)Hi Ed. It says:John 3:5…. “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of Water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” Luke 3:17….Water and spirit, huh? So, NOT the flesh and bone that Jesus was originally raised from the dead in? Interesting.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2012,17:57)The MB,NOW the Lord is the Spirit.But he will return in gloryWell, if NOW he is that spirit, then NOW he isn't a human being.

Hi Marlin,Come see the new thread. You made a comment about Devo's explanation of the Word, and so I hope you make a comment in that new thread.

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2012,22:54)I didn't say this in the original post, but one liners that are your own words in reply to another post is OK.Like this post.T8,Is it wise to use your own human logic? Better you let the spirit guide you.

Nick,The new thread is “Who said the words of John 17:5?” Please respond to the OP there.

Yes. What scriptural issue are we discussing again?

Good Ed, we agree on this.  It was the PERSON Jesus Christ who had glory in the presence of his God before the world began, because it was the PERSON Jesus Christ who asked to be returned to that glory.We are in agreement.

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 11 2012,22:11)There are times it totally covers it to respond simply with a verse from scripture, but even then it is hard to get the point across without some explanation.Yes Wm,Like when someone says, “There is no scripture that says this!” Then it is ample to post the scripture that DOES say it, or to even just post…[Read more]

Oh, that's plenty Wakeup.  Now, let's discuss them.I agree with you on #1.  I do not believe Michael is Jesus.  BUT………….I know the scriptures they use to come to their understanding of this, and I can't say I fault them for it.  I have not come to the same understanding, but only because I interpret a couple of scriptures differently tha…[Read more]

Nice post, Ed. Let's take it slower for you, okay?Ed, WHOEVER asked to be returned to a previous glory in John 17:5 has to be the Son of God, for he called God “Father”.Now, is the Word of God the SON of God? YES or NO?Is the Holy Spirit of God the SON of God? YES or NO?

Quote (david @ Feb. 11 2012,21:31)I commend you for taking the high road and holding Pierre accountable.  I was simply wanting a straightforward answer to a simple question from you.FINALLY!  Something that you should have said to me from the start – instead of attacking me for defending your organization.Listen carefully, David:  I don't want to…[Read more]

Hi All,Please check out the new thread, “Who said the words of John 17:5?”I think you all might find it interesting.

Nick,I'm starting a thread specifically for you, although I hope that others will also learn from it. Look for it, will you? It will be called “Who said these words?”

Nor will it, because no one here is SAYING anything.  They are like parrots reading off scripture, without any of the one-liners making any point.WHAT ARE WE ALL TALKING ABOUT HERE, PEOPLE?  WHAT LESSON ARE YOU TEACHING THE REST OF US, SHIMMER?

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2012,20:24)It is not against any rule to talk in one liners.Nor is it against any rule for us to voice our frustration with the person doing it, right?