Proclaimer: Mike, I asked you a question in our debate.

Chop chop.

It is the last post.

No excuses because it is easy to find, so not time wasted looking for it.

Who do you think I am… YOU?  😅  I logged on, saw your post, and then immediately answered the Hot Seat question before posting a single thing anywhere else on this site – as per th…[Read more]

Gene and Pretender:
IF YOU GUYS ARE TRULY TRUTH SEEKERS, AND THERE’S NO REASON TO HIDE FROM THE TRUTH, PROVE IT BY ADDRESSING THIS REQUEST THAT I’VE MADE MANY TIMES ALREADY…
Please explain why your interpretation of  Gen 1 has God creating light after it already existed, creating heaven after it already existed, creating earth after it al…[Read more]

GENE AND PROCLAIMER:
IF YOU GUYS ARE TRULY TRUTH SEEKERS, AND THERE’S NO REASON TO HIDE FROM THE TRUTH, PROVE IT BY ANSWERING ALL 3 OF THESE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY, WITH A YES OR A NO.
1. ARE THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS IN THE RAQIA? YES OR NO?
2. ARE THE WATERS ABOVE THE RAQIA?  YES OR NO?
3. DOES THIS REQUIRE THE WATERS TO BE ABOVE THE SUN, MOON, AN…[Read more]

Thanks for posting that great info again.  Based on Proclaimer’s and Gene’s most recent posts, neither of them are interested in truth – or they WOULD address your post, and my direct questions pertaining to it…
Pretender and Gene:
God created the raqia on Day 2.
1.  Where was God living before then?
2.  Did God move into the raqia after He cr…[Read more]

Yes, God named the raqia heaven.  No, raqia doesn’t mean “expanse”.

Jodi:  Mike, here is a God given clear fact, before Abraham even existed, long before he ever was, from the beginning the man Jesus of Nazareth was declared to execute God’s purpose…

Agreed.  Of course you realize that this takes your argument that the origin of the future ruler in Micah 5:2 was Abraham (or God’s prophecy to Abraham) off the tab…[Read more]

Yes Danny, I noticed that right away.  In fact that’s why I brought that very point up as a DIRECT question to him yesterday.  So far, crickets from both him and Gene.  🙄

Jodi: Hi Mike,

You are asking that I don’t apply what I know to a passage, take away/hide the truth and understanding I have and then read a passage as if I am blind, that’s ridiculous, that’s a game I don’t want to play with you Mike.

What?  When have I asked you to do any of that?  I merely pointed out two contradictory statements you made i…[Read more]

Even though Kathi’s unscriptural and nonsensical doctrine has been demolished by Jesus himself, I still want to get some closure on this subject that is important to me…

LU: Jesus confirmed that He is properly called “God.” If the created beings were called god, how much more the uncreated and only begotten Son of God would be called “God…

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LU:  John is not referring to the Father alone as God.

John 1:18… No one has ever seen God…

Is John referring to the Father ALONE as “God” in those words above?  Your statement above has been debunked.

But let’s use a different verse to make sure…

John 3:16… For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever b…[Read more]

Mike:  Would you agree that the most straightforward reading of Micah 5:2 tells of a future ruler who has already been around for a long time? 

 

Jodi:  Actually no, reading it straight forward I see,

from you  (Judah) shall “come forth” a ruler in Israel, which would be a prophecy, then reading,  “whose coming forth” is from of old, from an…

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Jodi:  This man from the tribe of Judah whose origin is from ancient of days being of the seed of Abraham would come forth to be a ruler in Israel according to God’s word from ancient of days, from the time of Abraham and even before, from the beginning.

Notice that, even according to your own words above, it is the MAN whose origin is from an…[Read more]

Jodi:  lol I just realized that I said out ways instead of out weighs, oops. I am sure you knew what I meant

Yeah, I knew.  I just figured you were doing talk-to-text and that’s how your phone spelled it. 😅

Jodi: Mike, which is it? He was conceived by the Holy Spirit or he was a spirit entity being sent down from heaven into a woman’s uterus being transformed into a human? These seem like two different things to me so please explain. What does that even mean, being conceived by the Holy Spirit?

I believe that Jesus existed in the form of a god, th…[Read more]

Jodi:  Second, the Gospel writers wrote after the Son of Man ascended to sit at God’s right hand right?

This is another point of disagreement between us that has no bearing on whether or not Jesus existed in heaven before existing on earth as a human being.  Therefore I have no interest in this particular point at this time.  Maybe some other time…[Read more]

Jodi: Hi Mike,

First off, you STILL have not addressed Matthew 1 and him giving us the BOOK OF Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN, the BOOK OF his GENEA/GENETIC LINE.

Hi Jodi.  Joseph adopting Jesus as his own son even though Joseph knew that he had nothing whatsoever to do with the existence of this child that was conceived – not by Joseph but by the Hol…[Read more]

@t8

You mentioned in 3 recent posts that the writers of the Bible were lacking knowledge about how our world really is.

Do you stand by that statement?  Yes or No?

*Honest and respectful questions deserve honest and respectful answers from people who are sincerely seeking nothing but the truth.

@t8

God created the raqia on Day 2.

1.  Where was God living before then?

2.  Did God move into the raqia after He created it?

3.  Or does God still dwell where He always did… outside of our physical realm?

Honest and respectful questions deserve honest and respectful answers from people who are truly and sincerely “truth seekers”.

Are yo…[Read more]

Gene:  i see it as a complete waste of our time, and robbing people of growing in grace and knowledge of the truth.

Gene, how in the world could I possibly waste YOUR time by posting things that you aren’t even required to read?  🤔🙄

And let’s face it, Gene, you AREN’T actually interested in truth at all.  If you were, you’d just directly an…[Read more]

Proclaimer and Gene keep overlooking the fact that the sun, moon and stars are IN the raqia that the waters are ABOVE.

That’s why I drew that cartoon for them. If the raqia is the space between the sea and the clouds, then the sun, moon, and stars must be IN the space between the sea and the clouds.
Gene and Proclaimer:
Please directly address t…[Read more]