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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Nick,Was Saul anointed with Holy Spirit after he was the anointed one of God? Yes.The anointing of someone had to do with them being chosen, as in “God's Chosen One”.  The actual rubbing on of oil was for demonstration purposes only – the anointing was done when that one was chosen to have oil rubbed on him, IMO.  For example, Saul had already b…[Read more]

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    Nick,Because I believe the scriptures. There is no “hidden agenda” or anything. It's just that the angel said he IS the Christ on the day he was born, and I believe that angel.I also believe Simeon when he said God kept His promise to let him see His Christ before he died. After seeing the 8 day old Jesus, Simeon said he could now die in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,15:41)2) Yep:Okay. That's all I was after. :)

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,12:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 21 2012,13:11)Quote (david @ Mar. 19 2012,22:38)Simeon had seen the Lord's anointed one.  He just happened to see him before he was anointed.???Again, Simeon wasn't looking back from some future time AFTER Jesus became the Christ at the Jordan, and saying he saw God's Christ when Jesus was…[Read more]

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    Job 1:6 is about sons of God, jammin. You seem to think that sons of God ARE God Himself, right? So are all these sons of God “God Almighty Himself”? Or does it make more sense that they are SONS OF God – like it clearly says?

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 19 2012,04:03)mike,your christ is a false god,My Christ is the anointed one OF God Almighty, the Maker of the heavens, earth, and everything in them.  Who is your Christ?  The same God who anointed him?  ???Quote (jammin @ Mar. 19 2012,04:03)the Son of Man is MAn. truly manthe Son of GOD is GOD. truly GOD!Job 1:6 One day the sons…[Read more]

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    Did you read the last line of my previous post? Answer the questions.

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 19 2012,21:38)Mike tries to make Scripture argue with Scripture; Nick has pointed this out.I couldn't possibly do that even IF I ever tried to, Ed.  If the scriptures I post get YOU thinking that scriptures are arguing with scriptures, then it is YOU who is understanding those scriptures wrong.It's like when you and Frank quote…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 19 2012,22:38)Simeon had seen the Lord's anointed one.  He just happened to see him before he was anointed.???Again, Simeon wasn't looking back from some future time AFTER Jesus became the Christ at the Jordan, and saying he saw God's Christ when Jesus was only 8 days old.  Simeon spoke in real time, and thanked (past tense) God f…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 19 2012,22:34)Mike, was Jesus born a Savior?Absolutely, David.  Did not the angel who told us Jesus was born the Christ also tell us he was born a Savior and King of the Jews?Is Jesus Christ YOUR personal Savior right now – today?  I assume you'll say “YES”, in which case, I want to know:1.  Have you yet gone off into ev…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 19 2012,22:33)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)And I've already mentioned in another post, that this angel wasn't looking back in time from the future, saying the one who EVENTUALLY TURNED INTO THE CHRIST was born in such and such a year. Instead, this angel said he was born the Christ ON THE VERY DAY HE WAS BORN.Do you have an example…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,20:39)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 20 2012,13:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2012,13:18)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,20:15)Again, my son was not taught to speak in such a manner, but I could tell my son about the esteem “HE HIMSELF HAD before he was born?No Frank.You could tell your son about the esteem YOU…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,20:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2012,13:13)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,19:56)No matter how the translators translate it “THE God” translation would still be in reference to FATHER Yahweh ……..That is correct, Frank.  And how many “THE gods” does John  mention in 1:1?  “THE god” is who the logos was WI…[Read more]

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    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,20:15)Again, my son was not taught to speak in such a manner, but I could tell my son about the esteem “HE HIMSELF HAD before he was born?No Frank.You could tell your son about the esteem YOU HAD for him before he was born.  You could not tell your son about any esteem HE HIMSELF had before he was born.Jesus, on…[Read more]

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    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,20:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2012,12:08)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,18:57)…..but I certainly would tell him that I had esteem for him…….Frank, Jesus didn't ask about the esteem/glory GOD HAD FOR HIM.  He asked about the glory HE HIMSELF HAD before the world began.You're trying to compare apples…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,19:56)No matter how the translators translate it “THE God” translation would still be in reference to FATHER Yahweh ……..That is correct, Frank.  And how many “THE gods” does John  mention in 1:1?  “THE god” is who the logos was WITH.  But John doesn't call the logos “THE god”, does he?Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ M…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 19 2012,19:02)Comments, Mike?Read about Saul, David.1 Samuel 101 Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul’s head and kissed him, saying, “Has not the LORD anointed you leader over his inheritance?10 When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joi…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 19 2012,18:55)Don't know about a lesser god…………..What's your other option? “Greater God” than his Father? :)

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,18:57)…..but I certainly would tell him that I had esteem for him…….Frank, Jesus didn't ask about the esteem/glory GOD HAD FOR HIM.  He asked about the glory HE HIMSELF HAD before the world began.You're trying to compare apples to oranges.  Could your son ask for the glory HE HIMSELF HAD before he was b…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    From the JW's:There are instances in which a person was regarded as being anointed because of being appointed by God, even though no oil was put on his head. This principle was demonstrated when Jehovah told Elijah to anoint Hazael as king over Syria, Jehu as king over Israel, and Elisha as prophet in place of himself. (1Ki 19:15, 16) The…[Read more]

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