Quote (david @ Mar. 25 2012,12:53)Quote As for Toby's point #6, David assumes Jesus was speaking prophetically about when he WILL see Satan fall like lightning from heaven.  David, it is not just your assumption, but must be the truth because John received a revelation from the exalted Jesus of things SOON TO HAPPEN.  And in that revelation of t…[Read more]

There are verses that TEACH that Jesus is the Word of God, Ed.But no, there isn't a scripture that specifically states, “Jesus is the Word of God” to my knowledge.

Quote (david @ Mar. 25 2012,13:11)But none of these things mean he had to been born the Christ.Yes.  And being anointed with Holy Spirit without limit doesn't have to mean that's WHEN he became the Christ, either.  Just like Acts 2:36 doesn't have to mean he was made the Christ after he was crucified – even though that's the way it sounds.I've s…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 25 2012,12:17)6) Jesus, while on Earth, said that he saw Satan fall like lightening from Heaven (Taken as it written, this rules out Jesus as Being Michael)I have a list of such points as well.  I have never heard your point #6 before.  It is interesting.  But I don't think Jesus literally saw with his eyes Satan and his an…[Read more]

David,Nick resigned from being a mod when he came back. He wanted to stay focused on being a pain in the butt instead.

Quote (david @ Mar. 25 2012,11:48)Is this the thread where we were discussing when jesus became the Christ?Yes. I was merely making a joke about you thinking of the “Pre-existent” thread when you saw that scripture.

Luke 246 After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. 47 Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers.By what means did this 12 year old boy get this understanding and these answers, David?Also, do you think it's logical that the one sent to…[Read more]

Quote (dew @ Mar. 22 2012,22:25)Hi.I would like to ask a question to all members here.Are the Internet forums any good for your faith?Is debating over the meaning of things as believers good for you?Is the cup half empty or half full?Dew, I believe that almost every choice we make on a minute by minute basis has the potential to end up as a good…[Read more]

Jesus is the firstborn FROM the dead, jammin.Adam was the firstborn FROM the dust of the earth.But tell me, is the firstborn of the flock also a member of the flock? YES or NO?

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 25 2012,10:43)You're like a fortune teller unaware of  your own misfortune.That reminds me of a joke about Dionne Warwick and her Psychic Friends Network going bankrupt:The comedian quipped, “Why didn't all those psychics see that coming?”  

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 25 2012,11:01)SO THE FATHER WAS IN HIS SON'S SUBSTANCE AS FLESH IN MARY AND CONCEIVED HIS SON IN HER WOMB,SO THE FATHER WAS IN HIS SON ON CONCEVEMENT.Charles,I've liked you since you joined HN. But I rarely have any idea what you are saying, or how you even came to your understanding from the scriptures I've read.Anyway, I've…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 25 2012,11:10)Anyway, just saw this scripture. Thought of this thread.Really? You saw that scripture and thought of the “Pre-existent” thread? That's odd. That is the scripture that started the whole discussion, fyi.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 25 2012,10:24)Mike…………None of that show any (ACTIVITY) of Jesus Prior to he berth on this earthGene,Show me some activity of God before He began creating.Should we assume God didn't exist until the moment He said “Let there be light”?Show me some activity of the other angels of God before they shouted with joy…[Read more]

I started it, jammin. It is called “Was Jesus Created?”

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 25 2012,10:04)Jesus never spoke of any pas activity of His before his berth that i recall.“That I recall”?  Isn't that the same wording the aides tell politicians to use when they're caught up in some past scandal?  Let me refresh your memory, Gene:“I came down from heaven””No one has seen the Father except the one w…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 24 2012,21:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 25 2012,12:18)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 24 2012,18:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 25 2012,05:39)Trained him via His Holy Spirit, Nick?Hi Mike,You disagree?God blessEd JNo Ed,I agree.  I agree that the Holy Spirit was working in Jesus long before he got baptized.Hi Mike,And after    …?      [Read more]

Toby,Remember what I told you in the other thread.  Don't assume that just because CERTAIN THINGS in scripture are symbolic that ALL THINGS in scripture are symbolic.I don't believe that angels having wings is symbolic.  You do.  There is no need to discuss it further.As for the rest, I've plainly stated my scriptures and the understanding wr…[Read more]

Wouldn't “God” be the ruler of “God's” creation? (Notice that 3:14 doesn't say “beginning/ruler of HIS OWN creation”, but “the creation of GOD”)I will start a thread about Jesus being a creation, okay?

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 25 2012,09:10)how many times i have told you that Christ was not created. col 1.15 refers to supremacy of Christ!And what about Rev 3:14, jammin?

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 25 2012,09:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,02:02)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 24 2012,22:48)do not explain mike.im still waiting for you answer. you and your father have the same nature, MAN. TRULY MAN! do you agree?Still waiting?  I've answered this for you at least a dozen times already.  Yes.  I, like my father BEFORE me, bo…[Read more]