Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 25 2012,21:53)1.  Who did Peter and John pray to?                                                                                                        “The Father”2.  Did they attribute the creation of the heaven, earth, sea, and EVERYTHING IN THEM to the One they prayed to?  YES or NO?                                      …[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 25 2012,21:58)to end this topic…………….This topic isn't going anywhere, jammin. You still have too much to learn for me to give up on you now, young Padawan.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,21:58)Hi MB, All men are created. Jesus Christ is the beginning of the new creationOkay Nick,Then you also agree with me and Pierre and Kerwin that Jesus was created. That is the question of the thread – thanks for your answer.

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2012,22:02)Pierre,I take it for granted that both Jesus and John the Baptist are created; especially as Scripture declares they were both conceived in their respective mother's wombs.Then for the purposes of this thread, you, I, and Pierre all agree that Jesus was created.Let's keep the “when” out of this thread if we…

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2012,21:58)Mike,It is absurd since no one questions that John the Baptist is created even though scripture attests that both he and Jesus were conceived.Thank you for that, Kerwin.Kathi, did you hear? John was also both “conceived” and “born”, yet he was still a creation of his God.Just like every single one of us.

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 25 2012,21:51)how can i answer the question of mike if we are not done yet with the term firstborn of death???he should first admit that his logic is wrong.The questions on the bottom of page 5 don't concern the term “firstborn”, jammin.I already knew the arguments I would get with Col 1:15 and Rev 3:14, because I've discussed…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2012,21:50)To all,This is an absurd thread which is why I also started one asking if John the Baptist is created.Absurd? How so, Kerwin?Was Jesus created? YES or NO? Seems pretty simple to me.

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 25 2012,21:49)hi he his what he his mike, jammy can not be anything else than himself ,True, Pierre. And thanks, brother.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,20:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,13:43)24 When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them. 25 You spoke by the Holy Spirit through the mouth of your servant, our father David:   “‘W…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,21:41)Hi MB, We are looking for truth not casting about for equal possibilitiesNick,You have cast aside truth on your quest to invent your own docrtine, which you told me just “came to you” one night. But, for the purposes of THIS THREAD, you and I agree that Jesus was created by his God, and that he wasn't a…[Read more]

You know jammin,It's sad for me because I actually started this thread for us. But now I see I've made a grave mistake. You don't want to learn, or even discuss any scriptures. You just want to play childish games.

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 25 2012,21:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,14:31)jammin,Last post on page 5.  There are five questions waiting for you.answer first my question. before i answer yours.Okay jammin,Unlike David in the other thread, I've grown tired of playing this game with you.If you cannot address my post on page 5, I understand. After…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2012,21:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 25 2012,22:03)Kathi and jammin,I'm waiting for your 5 answers to the post at the bottom of page 5.  (I've gone back and numbered them after Nick showed me he couldn't count.    Just kidding, Nick)Mike,First we need you to get this, that firstborn does not translate as first created an…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 25 2012,21:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,14:26)Now, you and Ed both agree that Jesus was created by God, right?Hi Mike,Jesus was born, not created. (see Matt.1:18-20)God blessEd JEd, more mundane crap?Were YOU born? YES or NO?Are YOU a creation of God? YES or NO?

jammin,Last post on page 5. There are five questions waiting for you.

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 25 2012,21:24)Hi Mike,Let me know when you start with another verse then; OK?Ed,ONCE AGAIN, it is the last post on page 5.  And me taking the time to write this once again for you because you apparently can't see the long brown colored passage I quoted at the bottom of page 5 is annoying me.(Hint: The questions are marked with…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,21:20)Hi MB, The beginning of the new creation was when God anointed His Christ and that anointing was shared with the brothers until now-the Spiritual unity. Now all creation waits eagerly for the revelation of ther sons of God.Nick,The focus of this thread is whether or not Jesus was created by God. As a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2012,21:18)Do you get this, Mike?Acts 4, Kathi. Bottom of page 5.

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 25 2012,21:17)what is your question mike??There are five of them at the bottom of page 5, jammin.I await your answers to each one.

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2012,21:13)Learn please!Acts 4, Kathi. Bottom of page 5.