And do you believe that as is his likeness, so are those who are of heaven?

And does that “man from heaven” have a body in heaven?

It seems to me scripture is pretty clear about the BODIES the dead will be raised in, and how they are going to be like the bodies those of heaven have.If you don't see that in the teaching, then you are entitled to your own interpretation. But don't try to belittle others because they understand certain scriptures differently than you.What…[Read more]

Jude 1:25to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.I think this should end the discussion once and for all.  Not only was he “Jesus” before all the ages, but he was Lord and Christ before all the ages too.

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2012,14:21)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,14:13)Hi MB, If angels are described in certain forms why would you decide they are in bodies?Nwhy would you figure they are not ???My thoughts exactly, Pierre.  What else would “form” be referring to anyway?Besides, Paul answers a question about BODIES (not “forms”) in 1…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2012,23:21)How is He Lord of all but not Lord of all?Kathi,How has “everything” been put under Jesus' feet when “everything” truly hasn't been put under his feet?1 Cor 15:27 spells it out that everything WITH THE EXCEPTION OF GOD HIMSELF is under the feet of Jesus.Likewise, Jesus is Lord over all WITH THE EXCEPTION OF…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Mar. 30 2012,23:37)Anyway, John 1 does not say “the Word of the Lord”.  Marty, whose Word is John 1:1 speaking about if not the Word of God?  Quote (942767 @ Mar. 30 2012,23:37)Jesus is Lord over all except God.Good point, Marty.  And by contrast, God is Lord over all including Jesus.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 31 2012,11:48)Tell us Mike what doe this mean to you , “And unto the Angels of the Church….>, Write” Now notice you “ENGLISH” translators used Angels their But it should have read MessengerTo which scripture do you refer, Gene?

Gene,Angels and demons are spirits, whether or not you personally accept this fact.As far as the translators deciding if “aggelos” refers to a human messenger or a spirit one, they use the context.  But you are free to disagree with their interpretation in any particular scripture.Do you have one in mind where the translators have rendered…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Mar. 29 2012,21:06)Hi Mike, please read the quoted commentaries on the verse I gave. My message was not just to you, but to anyone. (It was more to do with Spirit Bodies than here – maybe I put it in the wrong thread?).I can't see where they speak about Michael or the bodies of spirits. Perhaps you could point it out to me?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,00:25)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)The king of Abyssinia of old had a spokesman who went by the TITLE “The Word of the King”.  Now, would you seriously confuse this PERSON with an actual word the king spoke or wrote? I do not confuse that person with Jesus.  Jesus is much more than a spokesman for God.I didn't ask if you c…[Read more]

Toby,Either show a scripture that says spirit beings such as angels don't have bodies, or give it up.  Your smack talk only amuses you (and perhaps Gene and Shimmer).Even the source you yourself quoted yesterday agrees that the raised dead will dwell in heaven WITH BODIES, like the body Jesus now dwells in heaven with.The bodies of angels in…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2012,13:57)Do you agree:1) God thinks, does, and says his Word?2) The Spirit reveals God's Word?3) Jesus thinks, does, and says the Word.Kerwin,You pretend to assume that every mention of “word” in the scriptures has the same meaning.  Yes, a word is something God or anyone can speak or write.  That kind of “word” is not t…[Read more]

jammin,Just out of curiosity, what makes you think he hasn't been named Jesus since the time God begot him before the ages?Many people have this same idea as you – that his name was something other than Jesus before he was made into a man, or that he didn't have a name back then at all.  I just wonder why, since there is no scripture alluding to…[Read more]

Toby,Your understanding is based upon the fact that we as humans don't know all things.  For example, we don't KNOW how God transformed Jesus to become born of Mary.  But us not knowing this or that specific detail is not really a good offense for someone claiming with certainty something that isn't even hinted at in scripture.One can't r…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Mar. 30 2012,02:56)So that is it then – that is your grand escape plan …………….   Okay Toby.  It's your story – tell it like you want to……………. as long as it means I have finally truly escaped from you!  And btw, the source you quoted understands it much like I've been telling you all along:Lastly, our resurrected bo…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 30 2012,01:04)Do you see, as you compare the verses in your post that I am quoting here with the above two verses, that Jesus and the Father are both referred to as Lord? Yet for us, we are told, there is one Lord and it is not referring to the Father.Yes Kathi, I see that.  Do you understand it?  In 1 Cor 8:6, Paul is l…[Read more]

I have already, Nick. And it appears that nothing has changed: you remain a complete and utter waste of the time I spend organizing posts to you.Go talk to someone else, for I'm through with you and your nonsense.

Every word you just wrote is in a dictionary, Nick.

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,19:36)Hi Mike,If you believe God created all things, then why do you attribute this verse to Jesus?Col 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: allthings were created by him, and for…[Read more]