Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 31 2012,23:42)Nothing has power over the Father and the Son now but not all believe that.I agree that nothing has power over the Father – nor has anything EVER had power over Him.BUT…………………….Can the same be said about the Son?  (John 14:28, 1 Cor 11:3, Romans 6:9, etc.)

Nick,Both Saul and David were already anointed by God when the Holy Spirit came upon them.Why must you insist it was different in the case of Jesus of Nazareth, the Son and Christ of God? Why do you insist upon an understanding that is clearly refuted by the scriptures themselves?

WHY is it my “speculation”, Nick?   Do you not believe Jude 1:25?  Do you not believe 1 Cor 8:6?  Do you not believe Phil 2?Clearly, someone who was already named “Jesus”, and who was already God's Christ and Son is the one through whom God created all the ages.To the contrary of your assertion, it is “speculation” when people just assume his na…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,13:25)Hi MB, Yes folk do get angry when their human interpretations are shown to be illusory.But you don't ever actually scripturally show any of our understandings to be illusionary, Nick.You make arrogant condescending posts with that intent, but it only amounts to a spiritually starved man poking…[Read more]

That is one way to take it, Pierre. I tend to understand the scriptures more literally, for the most part.When Jesus says, “the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken”, I take it literally.But that doesn't mean I'm right about it. You do make a good…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,13:31)Hi MB, You will never offer the WHOLE TRUTH till you can hear and see spiritually. So far just the TRADITIONS of men.Nick,This post, like MOST of your posts, are nothing but wasted space on this site.Have you scripturally refuted anything I've said?  Have you even ATTEMPTED to do so?  Of course not.  …[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,13:28)Hi MB, David would be nothing had the Spirit of God not anointed him and worked through him The Spirit of Christ is that Spirit.So the spirit of christ anointed the father first, and then later the son.Why then does the father call the son “my Lord”? This is what Jesus also asked, Nick. I know the answer – do you?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2012,13:26)Hi MB, Can you find it written or must we follow you into speculation?1 Cor 1547 The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have…[Read more]

jammin,Please actually ADDRESS the verses I listed.  Address other people's points once in a while instead of always re-posting just one scripture over and over that you think proves your point.In doing so, you will learn as well as teach. I would like you to answer my question:Do you think it's possible that the angel told Mary to give the child…[Read more]

Gene,I have to say you make a good point.  Why would John need to WRITE something down for the ANGELS of the congregations?  These would be better translated as “messengers” of the congregations, for it seems agreed among the commentators that Jesus refers to HUMAN messengers.From Barnes:Unto the angel – The minister; the presiding presbyter; t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2012,23:27)Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2012,09:33)NI believe in the words of the anointed one the son of God and the WORD OF GOD ,YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE ONE THAT WAS SEND FROM ABOVE YOU DO NOT BELIEVE HIS WORDS ,SO HOW CAN YOU DISCERN ANYTHING BESIDE OF WHAT ALL WHO READ THE SCRIPTURES CAN UNDERSTAND NO MORE ,YOU…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,17:04)I understand that words can mean many things and that Satan uses both the ignorance and corruption of mankind to ensnare him to lies.  As I stated your understanding is an attempt to escape the untruths that crept into the church long ago; an attempt that falls short of the goal.It is you who falls way short of…[Read more]

Yes jammin, I can read……………can you?Luke 2:21On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he had been conceived.Can you read in Phil 2 that JESUS Christ was existing in the form of God before being made into a human being?Can you read in Jude 1:25 that JESUS has been…[Read more]

Nick,What follows is the discourse we started yesterday because you felt it necessary to “teach me” something about being taught by my “speculations” instead of by scripture. Please answer the last quote below, so we can end the discourse.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2012,14:50)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2012,14:21)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2012,03:31)Pierre,Scripture clearly states the Messiah is the son of David.  What passage of Scripture confuses you that you think otherwise?Scripture also states that Jesus Christ was existing in the form of God BEFORE he was made into the likeness of a human being.  Scripture says Jesus was Lord and Christ before all t…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Mar. 31 2012,22:20)Gene, thank you for your support as far as I said I agree with you.However, can you see that the argument is NOT: 'Are Spirits Bodies' but 'Do Spirits HAVE BODIES' (IS a Spirits in Heaven IN A BODY).I understand what you say about Human Spirits being IN A BODY of flesh on Earth – that is EXACTLY RIGHT. Gene – NO…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Mar. 31 2012,22:12)Terraricca, perhaps you can answer the question that another refuses to answer – and that is: if Jesus was in a Spiritual body while in Heaven before coming as Man then how did he die on the cross seeing that the Spiritual body cannot die.I assume I'm the “another” who “refuses to answer”?  Toby, if Jesus was…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Mar. 31 2012,16:18)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Toby,Either show a scripture that says spirit beings such as angels don't have bodies, or give it up. Mikeboll, is this all you have?Prove that Water is NOT WET!Prove that Water can be DRUNK!Why not list the whole scenario, instead of just part of it?  This is how it really is:Scripture says…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2012,17:41)These experts chose a different sentence structure than those of Mike's chosen translation. This does not support his interpretation ………………..How so, Kerwin?

Jude 125 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.This scripture says he was “Jesus”, “Christ” and “Lord” before all ages.